From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: cua-mode and the tutorial Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 23:30:21 +0200 Message-ID: References: <44C8F069.1070002@student.lu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1156714330 31283 80.91.229.2 (27 Aug 2006 21:32:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 21:32:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 27 23:32:07 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GHSEc-0002Im-MF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 23:32:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GHSEb-0003Bj-NO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 17:32:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GHSEM-0003AQ-Tu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 17:31:46 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GHSEL-00039d-Mm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 17:31:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GHSEL-00039a-Iv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 17:31:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.41.46.237] (helo=pfepc.post.tele.dk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GHSN5-000284-QH; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 17:40:47 -0400 Original-Received: from kfs-l.imdomain.dk.cua.dk (0x503e2644.bynxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [80.62.38.68]) by pfepc.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 53A388A0018; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 23:31:31 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sun, 27 Aug 2006 10:34:56 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:58951 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > > I think trying to prevent people from shooting in their foot is the wrong > > way to go, since it'll also prevent them from doing other things. > > The problem here is a matter of one expert shooting multiple newbies > in the foot. And that same expert shooting multiple other experts in various other part of their body :-) > > > I'd rather we put some kind of loud warning on the splash page if we detect > > something like viper or cua enabled before .emacs gets loaded. > > That's ok with me (I know how to inhibit the splash screen for the machines > where I do this). > > It sounds like you're saying that the splash screen warning won't > solve the problem. It will solve the problem for me. > But perhaps I have misunderstood. Does "do this" refer to setting up > your PC for you to use it under various different names, Yes. > or does it > refer to getting Emacs newcomers started using nonstandard bindings? NO. There are no other users on this system than myself. I would never setup a system with CUA or viper enabled by default. But I would tell users how to enable them, if they ask! -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk