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From: Andy Wingo <wingo@pobox.com>
To: MON KEY <monkey@sandpframing.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Save `nil' from the mutant void, preserve the truth of falsehood, prevent the falsehood of truth
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 13:04:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3r5gzdxzl.fsf@unquote.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=knVAJcjBeaPMZDPAChNAXXYhguT7dTwntVa9a@mail.gmail.com> (MON KEY's message of "Sat, 11 Sep 2010 19:33:07 -0400")

Hello,

On Sun 12 Sep 2010 01:33, MON KEY <monkey@sandpframing.com> writes:

> So, how do the Schemes handle this? Is it possible to define/set away
> #f?

In Scheme, #f and '() are not identifiers (symbols), so it is impossible
to set!  them.

> This said, Guile 1.9.10 doesn't seem to mind me let-binding `nil':
>
> scheme@(guile-user)> (let ((nil 'bubba)) nil)
> ;=> bubba

Nil does not exist in Scheme, so it is not bound. However Guile does
provide a separate nil value, which may be read as "#nil" -- again, not
an identifier.

(There is also a %nil symbol bound to #nil in the default environment
with deprecated symbols enabled, but that is a relic.)

There are still some nil-is-a-symbol-in-elisp issues to work out in
Guile. In fact there are still a number of symbols-are-fat-in-elisp,
symbols-are-just-immutable-strings-in-scheme issues to work out...

I don't think my comments have much bearing on your original comment,
though :)

Andy
-- 
http://wingolog.org/



  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-09-12 11:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-11 23:33 Save `nil' from the mutant void, preserve the truth of falsehood, prevent the falsehood of truth MON KEY
2010-09-12  0:16 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-12 11:04 ` Andy Wingo [this message]
2010-09-12 14:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-09-13  0:16   ` MON KEY
2010-09-13  9:52     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-09-14  5:11       ` MON KEY
2010-09-14 11:14         ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]         ` <51808.130.55.118.19.1284998205.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov>
2010-09-22  1:37           ` MON KEY

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