From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changing the default for `send-mail-function' Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 01:38:57 +0200 Organization: Programmerer Ingebrigtsen Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1309131631 11447 80.91.229.12 (26 Jun 2011 23:40:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 23:40:31 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 27 01:40:27 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QaywE-0005dk-Lc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 01:40:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33063 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QaywD-0002D9-Kw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 19:40:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:43532) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qayvd-00025n-GX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 19:39:50 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qayvb-0005ZV-OP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 19:39:49 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:48415) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qayvb-0005ZO-4u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 19:39:47 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qayva-0005Rk-Aw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 01:39:46 +0200 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 01:39:46 +0200 Original-Received: from larsi by cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 01:39:46 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEUMCQjo5t8KBgX08eob GBc/PTr+/vz////T0c2Fgn20sasEAgEJXXF9AAACNUlEQVQ4jZ3UMYvbMBQHcBGuUycRuCiZjNab jMvZ3OQeMnRMSwx1OoVQh47FNC7dRCBVvR00cNJ2hBy2pnKrv1yfJCdNetdC+zeYRD89PWEso3Kf RXkSVP4hf4HPGjKquNZK31V1Df8GFgrMBRZ8JTDHnNRVHZHQgeBwCcF9wjkRRPg4/M/m/wxklQcm EfTfKC3M5hu5KNGozn1sAgPjJNO6aqTcGNCXDkZa75hU28IntoLo1QzvS74n8utlWV4ZwHo7h9F+ gAkszrLzIF/mFqrbHGPf9K9gsXSGg7IYAtyNFDSxEMFiaSb6i6WBm5GsfVjJBPpnWV2H+RXAWyLH r9x44Gu9kboe5DMAhZv4ZQdQAqDW+Rygwd/i19144FcAcp0HAC/wEN3sK4Joo5oOPiUpmnK8lx1U rAIfYIdQzFiSSc1tF6XlFmCJxsiGsU5FJeQaQ4UFj8LtzCCbFkSqA/Soia3M6kZulAXPSA9RtyZ6 lmZpGgL0YIRSj9Kehw4Ju+bUDNMnwPV4AlDP7u13SGIAaOWhND4BBk0QtPcoY7/gDaUsHVOXs8nE tdpD0nVPUphjtjcAeKDMBQTu13aGAdrahxSzC0rhOV9ftA7etS1LJ60LSybJ+Ai6xDAlfW4mdNBe tA9wHcULHTzKD4AJgz0+CsAHCXGfi+LoQC3RewPRKsLrJvsIJ56QPuH9A4harNX0y60mFfwkHGAo pWoi+Cqci/s5vPb2DJmKObxM+WmWZb4ofgIGy4alXJDDvgAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== Mail-Copies-To: never X-Now-Playing: Mostly Other People Do The Killing's _The Coimbra Concert (2)_: "Factoryville" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:pYZ1476nPuw7SBs3NmR+6oJslT8= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:141029 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > Emacs now has `mail-interactive' default to t. Why does `sendmail' > fail silently if it cannot deliver the message? Why doesn't > `sendmail-send-it' detect the failure and report it? Emacs forks off the "sendmail" program, which takes the message, and feeds it to exim, which says "ok", and then generates a bounce message. > Why won't the user see the bounce message? If the bounce message is > delivered locally to the user, why won't Emacs mail readers show it? Most people don't get mail delivered to their local machine, so there's no reason for them to look for mail locally. > For instance, when exim is configured for local delivery only, we > should make `sendmail' fail quickly for any address with an @ in it, > thus giving Emacs the chance to report the error properly. If you know of a way to make most of the common GNU/Linux distributions work in this manner, I'm all ears. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/