From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Network Security Manager merge time? Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 11:39:57 +0100 Message-ID: References: <82r3wzxfp5.fsf@oracle.com> <82egszx92i.fsf@oracle.com> <827fyrx8eg.fsf@oracle.com> <82egsyqm2y.fsf@oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1416480048 18503 80.91.229.3 (20 Nov 2014 10:40:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 10:40:48 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 20 11:40:42 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XrPAI-0005Y8-0T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 11:40:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34555 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XrPAH-0004ji-Jj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 05:40:41 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58000) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XrPA1-0004ja-Eo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 05:40:31 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XrP9v-0007fK-5X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 05:40:25 -0500 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:51451) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XrP9u-0007fC-V1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 05:40:19 -0500 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1XrP9Z-0007yn-HV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 11:39:57 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAGFBMVEW+hI/3qpX4o4zumor1 wM4xJTUQCxd5WnQed2KMAAACbklEQVQ4jU2UzZLbIAzH1awTn7H7ADW8QGoOvaYZZXxNdyJ4gQJX NmPM61dAvF2Nk7H1++sDLAxKsqlZSi2/mNKg1FwZg7kKdqDV+e0MP0etRyHULKoNUoNUG5HDG5GJ NiVCSOmDJaBkcsbhEozrc4QVb7F/F8PI4OSNicvduO5kw9rdjvQsNSQD5yxmpmYlXPF4v3IXoHXy 3rtHJJuN7TF2GN9lKT4fo/HWgnEpOVhWvIQn98vt5u7knCPvify6dOsSrlMBc0Tuy/NlvL/3EHt7 5aVy8e8X9pQ6R+8zHQPlZwFi6JM3rPf15zLnfJdawSC3ok7ehs27Gur/lOJy3loici2jT+ZDynPZ q+L2lvyt1qfEKy9AtggqvnUzxpGp62ggEVCwiJelRB2kKODEWtis9S4iYqJHvLaIX54sJmt45Qwu 6YFXORSQkr2w0vtAKxPsdgAP9mNMxoQHVnul4nAAytwW/X2B6QVKokdpLnxG/Gigwy0UQNUPn6Dv 8HZn4KCBg1TnBhBv1ia/4g72VAyMXXy9u8QGlAToEJd+RYu1wXt/KO3yoLBV7Z1HBCDbfKhTIgFe yLIc+pwZqLpyfqggsJz9KR/ayoumBoUq34GooJKQq1EDQwNM+lDUmbfsKYY9VTWX82bLRDSgSlr3 +mvv/9l2N/Fh8obYGXJqQMqxgjo2ZX6pjdZTqYmB3u0ML3vTvFHy84TP/0/5LAV8eWaPHIZ2J0qE nKbikxM7RQFCigYK0/pNj+eDVrOeJ/4EAOMKIB76c3+A+I2vSYw7KDZwsqmqhjq7r2rsHyZRbuQk BgGjGPUXq9+Y7yh+/wOeJBMoWvgS/gAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Martin Finke's _Cast In Old Cast Iron_: "Cast In Old Cast Iron" X-Hashcash: 1:23:141120:emacs-devel@gnu.org::lRn76FcSofjnzktK:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000004BDg In-Reply-To: <82egsyqm2y.fsf@oracle.com> (Robert Pluim's message of "Thu, 20 Nov 2014 10:04:53 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-MailScanner-ID: 1XrP9Z-0007yn-HV MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1417084797.86523@+Aav0bqE7DBpIQJ/ZjRwGQ X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.224.195 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:177864 Archived-At: Robert Pluim writes: > This is true. Given the news about various ISPs removing 'STARTTLS' from > server capabilities, I've now moved over to using nntps directly. I doubt ISPs have even heard about NNTP these days. :-) And NSM will warn you if a previously STARTTL server now is lacking encryption. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no