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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: mapping data formats imported from C libraries
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 16:56:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3r3wqvtuo.fsf@stories.gnus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r3wqazjb.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Wed, 26 Nov 2014 07:59:04 -0500")

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> Yeah, I've seen the mess that libxml2 and json.el produce (not the
> coder's fault, it's just a pain to adapt without native types).  It
> doesn't help that XML/SGML and Lisp are inbred cousins :)
>
> * it's a pain to distinguish JSON's `false' and `null' while using them
>   in code

Well, I don't think that's a DOM point.  

> * in json.el you pick the key-value storage method! yay!
>
> * in json.el you pick the array storage method! yay!
>
> * JSON data is not a tree

Sure it is.

{"a": {"b": [1, 2], "c": 4}}

> My ideal mapping from libjson and libyaml would be:
>
> * unambiguous: you can reconstruct a canonical version of the input
>   stream from the parse data, as much as possible (JSON is better at this)

Trivial from the Emacs DOM.

> * native: you can iterate over JSON arrays as Lisp lists, and JSON
>   key-value mappings as alists.  JSON's `false' and `null' are both
>   false in Lisp boolean context.

Outside the scope of the DOM.

> * clean: no extra cons cells for attributes

Doesn't matter.  :-)

> * readable: this is huge IMO, to be able to pretty-print the data and
>   quickly see what it contains... one of the things I like about JSON
>   vs. SGML/XML.

`pp' prints the DOM real purdy like.  I've web scraped bunches and
bunches of pages, and reading the DOM in the *scratch* buffer is really
easy.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
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  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-26 15:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-23 15:18 DOM manipulation functions Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-23 15:58 ` joakim
2014-11-23 15:59 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2014-11-23 16:01   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-23 16:52     ` Steinar Bang
2014-11-24  0:26   ` Leo Liu
2014-11-25  9:12     ` mapping data formats imported from C libraries (was: DOM manipulation functions) Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-25 15:54       ` mapping data formats imported from C libraries Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-25 16:27         ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-25 16:32           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-25 16:40             ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-25 17:06               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-26 10:41                 ` Steinar Bang
2014-11-26 15:51                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-26 19:57                     ` Steinar Bang
2014-11-26 20:00                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-26 12:59                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-26 15:56                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen [this message]
2014-11-26 16:48                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-23 18:45 ` DOM manipulation functions raman
2014-11-25 11:01 ` Nicolas Richard
2014-11-26 18:44 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-26 19:42   ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-26 19:44     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

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