From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changes to Texinfo DTD Date: 06 Dec 2003 00:08:14 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200312051731.hB5HVWD07361@f7.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1070662603 16131 80.91.224.253 (5 Dec 2003 22:16:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:16:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: juri@jurta.org, epameinondas@gmx.de, teirllm@dms.auburn.edu, nferrier@tapsellferrier.co.uk, bob@rattlesnake.com, eliz@elta.co.il, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 05 23:16:38 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ASOFa-00042w-00 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 23:16:38 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ASOFZ-0003st-00 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 23:16:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ASPCi-00008J-8w for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 18:17:44 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ASPBe-0007qH-KP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 18:16:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ASPB2-0007dZ-07 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 18:16:31 -0500 Original-Received: from [195.41.46.237] (helo=pfepc.post.tele.dk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ASP5d-0006L9-QH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 18:10:25 -0500 Original-Received: from kfs-l.imdomain.dk.cua.dk (0x503e2644.bynxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [80.62.38.68]) by pfepc.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 00C9A2628EF; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:08:53 +0100 (CET) Original-To: karl@freefriends.org (Karl Berry) In-Reply-To: <200312051731.hB5HVWD07361@f7.net> Original-Lines: 32 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:18439 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:18439 karl@freefriends.org (Karl Berry) writes: > @code 341 345 > @xref 359 371 378 389 (list each section in the *Note .... output) > > I suppose it could be done, but > (1) I see no advantage over the XML output; IMO it would be much easier to utilize in emacs' info reader. It could be mapped almost 1:1 to suitable text properties, or set boundaries for text refilling. > (2) It seems significantly harder to read, write, and debug than XML; and Are you serious? Parsing -- and using -- free-form, inline XML in emacs would be 10 times harder than my simple, "overlay" format. > (3) the XML output is already there. This would require significant new > effort in makeinfo, without adding commensurate value. If XML is already there, then why do we discuss this issue at all? a) isn't this thread about improving XML format? b) can emacs info reader use the XML format? c) how much work will it be to make emacs info reader use XML? -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk