From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Liu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: with-output-to-temp-buffer and help-mode Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 11:30:33 +0800 Message-ID: References: <1yppgtua5n.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1407382332 1479 80.91.229.3 (7 Aug 2014 03:32:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 03:32:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 07 05:32:01 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XFEQF-000587-7R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 05:31:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42896 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XFEQE-00012S-KQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 23:31:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37064) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XFEPz-00011J-UE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 23:31:20 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XFEPq-0000OI-Tz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 23:31:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x22d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22d]:42969) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XFEPq-0000Nv-MB; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 23:30:58 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id eu11so4579541pac.4 for ; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 20:30:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:face:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=F911ePPApsf00DG6EiLh2Yo8R7XQnRXr7qXcSPa3wUA=; b=rcUhYv7AtwAj7vFQx2kKlG1q5SdVy+QgAOl52As8lt3ZLdZep30zL8dCtmcIoVep9d VRU12X6kFqOvWhTlOmdZSNRGvKU5BoDw+cL2dK7cuRN1X3nybLpwbWCyVyw90bkWkG2j SjJ0srbgEZ1tLV7cmCobEiNiuzVh+wcn8/GaWxhjuGxh+crOZ1KPeQokB5GXmDaBfDJf fXsBVuGNN7TSn+kzWEz8KEbVDVG9j4hBFCQEp9Don86fOCf6LosuEYnsQLU6zSfu/NnA oqgSeIbJkPmhHJQctkZUuJ2pWI7ab8yYvLxf9eyaq5xLNdMNBLSmi7jmILIY0+uJu7B3 Uzog== X-Received: by 10.68.252.229 with SMTP id zv5mr15374727pbc.16.1407382256941; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 20:30:56 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from fortuna ([221.222.157.214]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id bz4sm2765975pbd.25.2014.08.06.20.30.46 for (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 06 Aug 2014 20:30:56 -0700 (PDT) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACkAAAApAQAAAACAGz1bAAABKElEQVQYlWNg3NIt5FDPUPt7 4+X79Qyucz5/ugik+L2PBgKpyphaIK921q23QDnG0NBQoMr/vaWl9f8ZLL78uPv5PwN7RETfzXoG jhmFz27XM0RXmpuY/WfY+fv0Mc56BvFybfXA/wwL5t/wF61n2PU59axXPcOVzbmSW/8zrNt1benC /ww70hqUU/4zKCtrT9jwn8FhwynbufUMendE2aLqGRpdX9al1zM8eh17lKeeQcTMrdD5P8P3j/YT Q/8zXHSb7p1Qz/C4OM2JuZ7hgtI7K6AjqsMnf8j4z8C6xG1tw3+GqpqvsVn/GTzmpD9j/8/wP/oZ S/l/Bka+QO/g/wy15ueeFQL9N1O8mPU/g+umV3t1gdT0/1bTgHLqYVeXAlWKpMWt+w8Az82C9nHf X0cAAAAASUVORK5CYII= In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 06 Aug 2014 12:54:41 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (CentOS 6.5) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22d X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:173465 Archived-At: On 2014-08-06 12:54 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > I agree. It was tempting, but it breaks too many things. > Better design a new macro with cleaner semantics and mark the other one > as obsolete. I have reverted the change ;) Leo