From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs/Mutt and Efail or OpenPGP is safer than S/MIME? Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2018 15:58:11 +0200 Message-ID: References: <878t8lfgu3.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <83o9hfk311.fsf@gnu.org> <87lgcjo736.fsf@igel.home> <831sebjyb2.fsf@gnu.org> <87bmdfo2b5.fsf@igel.home> <87vabl5ech.fsf@mat.ucm.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1532267784 19081 195.159.176.226 (22 Jul 2018 13:56:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2018 13:56:24 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: oub@mat.ucm.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 22 15:56:19 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fhEqN-0004nA-VW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2018 15:56:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56087 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fhEsU-0000yL-VG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2018 09:58:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46455) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fhEsN-0000xf-EK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2018 09:58:20 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fhEsK-0004cR-E6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2018 09:58:19 -0400 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:58616) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fhEsK-0004bp-65; Sun, 22 Jul 2018 09:58:16 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.212.221.165.getinternet.no ([84.212.221.165] helo=stories) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fhEsF-00011f-VB; Sun, 22 Jul 2018 15:58:13 +0200 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAHlBMVEVz/2J12VZ0/2Fz/2Nw /2Bz915QiTJv/2NbtkImMhVooORwAAACG0lEQVQ4jXWTMW/bMBCFBbTofqrpqCNpuEi3VKxjeKsQ ukRGuVbdVYshbVUll101hKD/gBH/2xwp0VKQ5IEQTH/37pEHKVBKCCGVkxRWjVK4ggoakQD+e5hI C6SQWHalghQaksB6q6orUU0gJWupqvVHCypIYApQbUWS/4IpAdzlyyBJAEGe7KawlZBMYELyKexU cGiabbKDRFXv8QzYTQB8PWA4xtpADLdnUU0juhM64De9pAeyiozB5XVxND/2TudOpwuQDuijB6IH jbDAaF32xE3IO0xhdNED6QCeyLUqdHHyoGuFt0Cg0bAvnwGUbWX0fv/Jh9+p2l0QQWGwXe+wtbV3 OL0A/94CnUOX++Hm3N2jd5SDY8lHIxkDXo+H+Bw03QVHhrOqlzUPpJLyXrtehe7OVaNchrq3o3r4 n0XEjZ5bIeB3K6x/WENUkPVxAPhAR1614rc5GFN6UC+X724f84z8uYkMX5BF2YOm5vzDY2t+8joz nC8iD77hY3UybZYC6BYi48EN5/HqjGM32riX6NiDv/i4PdvXqQfe8d228o52BLhzOKB7MLuAL75V CwNgMz77fC7MqFXvmMXsGkud8GuCqO0yWMy8ZnHc7WJmwSBscfnJAkYZJZuQpBsKQEMGtENBiqPA lUNImQUhnTNGIQxojoWYSS8OwBoLCMznMAQBpWnISDgO93IpwZxt3gAZghcMQbZ5nTwB3/mBpZ4W IzEAAAAASUVORK5CYII= In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon, 21 May 2018 00:15:47 -0400") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 80.91.224.195 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:227667 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > > When you're reading a newsgroup, you're reading a public resource. > > Anybody can read it, so the only thing the person who controls the > > external resources can determine is that somebody (at a certain IP > > address) read the message. > > Finding out your IP address is indeed snooping, unless you change it > frequently. I think we should inform users of the snooping > consequence of this default. People could the decide whether to > consider it acceptable. > > Could you add that to the doc string? I've now done so. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no