From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Scrolling change Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 13:41:52 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1115056545 1715 80.91.229.2 (2 May 2005 17:55:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 17:55:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 02 19:55:42 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DSf6V-0008Ic-OL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 May 2005 19:53:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DSfDS-0005Hg-DS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 May 2005 14:00:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DSeUr-0004po-HF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2005 13:14:17 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DSeKh-00015k-8f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2005 13:03:47 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DSeKP-0000jk-85 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2005 13:03:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_SHA:16) (Exim 4.34) id 1DSeNY-00082z-8v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2005 13:06:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [212.88.64.25] (helo=mail-relay.sonofon.dk) by mx20.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DSZLB-0000QQ-7n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2005 07:44:00 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 81346 invoked from network); 2 May 2005 11:41:52 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO kfs-l.imdomain.dk.cua.dk) (213.83.150.2) by 0 with SMTP; 2 May 2005 11:41:52 -0000 Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:03:59 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:36585 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:36585 Richard Stallman writes: > * Lisp Changes in Emacs 21.4 > > +++ > + ** The line-move, scroll-up, and scroll-down functions will now > + modify the window vscroll to scroll through display rows that are > + taller that the height of the window, for example in the presense of > + large images. To disable this feature, Lisp code may bind the new > + variable `auto-window-vscroll' to nil. > > This seems like mainly a user-level change, so it should be described > in the user changes section. Also, I think the new scrolling feature > may needs to be in the Emacs Manual. Vscrolling is not a user-controlled feature as such, and the current description in NEWS is about Lisp functions behaving differently, but with a user visible effect to fix short-comings of previous releases. Also, I do not envision that a user would want to disable auto-window-vscroll (so it is not a defcustom). So I suggest to keep the above entry as is. > > Could you DTRT with NEWS? I have added the following description to the user visible changes: ** Moving or scrolling through images (and other lines) taller that the window now works sensible, by automatically adjusting the window's vscroll property. > > Also maybe the Emacs Manual, but if you > just add the new item to NEWS, that will serve as a reminder to update > the Emacs Manual. IMO, the new functionality is "obvious", so I don't think it is necessary to mention this in the Emacs Manual - and I don't know what to write or where... -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk