From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: joakim@verona.se Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: CVS is the `released version' Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 22:19:48 +0200 Message-ID: References: <2cd46e7f0705101124r72000f78xdf05d18ca815ca57@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1178914828 31436 80.91.229.12 (11 May 2007 20:20:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 20:20:28 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 11 22:20:26 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HmbbC-0001lo-Ak for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 May 2007 22:20:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hmbie-0003Wy-Bj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 May 2007 16:28:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hmbib-0003S9-3o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 May 2007 16:28:01 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HmbiZ-0003Nz-Es for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 May 2007 16:28:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HmbiZ-0003Nf-B7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 May 2007 16:27:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mxfep03.bredband.com ([195.54.107.76]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Hmbb6-0003qV-7V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 May 2007 16:20:16 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport.bredband.com ([195.54.107.82] [195.54.107.82]) by mxfep03.bredband.com with ESMTP id <20070511202002.PBKT23113.mxfep03.bredband.com@ironport.bredband.com> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 22:20:02 +0200 Original-Received: from ua-83-227-131-3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO kurono.home) ([83.227.131.3]) by ironport.bredband.com with ESMTP; 11 May 2007 22:19:58 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri\, 11 May 2007 14\:48\:44 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.0.95 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Solaris 8 (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:70852 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > I don't like the idea of having a package system for Emacs. First of all, > it clearly is not needed. Second, it would invite programmers to put > a lot of work into a mechanism instead of putting it into improvements > in what Emacs can actually do. Tom Tromey posted a simple implementation of a package system to emacs.sources recently. It works fairly well, so the time is already invested. IMHO such a system is very useful for packages outside of the emacs core, and it would be nice if package.el could be inside the core so external packages could be easily installed by users. Compared with systems like Eclipse, installing an emacs package consists of some fairly boring obviously automatable steps. (like hunting for the package, downloading in the right dir, entering the correct invocation in .emacs, etc...) -- Joakim Verona