From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unwarranted invocation of starttls Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2012 19:51:02 +0100 Message-ID: References: <83aa67s5zo.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325443889 14269 80.91.229.12 (1 Jan 2012 18:51:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 18:51:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 01 19:51:25 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RhQVA-0007Up-3z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 19:51:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44308 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhQV9-0002tx-JK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 13:51:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:37439) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhQV6-0002ts-PM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 13:51:21 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhQV5-0005vD-8z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 13:51:20 -0500 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:41114) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhQV5-0005uc-15; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 13:51:19 -0500 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RhQUr-0002HP-TV; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 19:51:05 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83aa67s5zo.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 01 Jan 2012 19:11:07 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.92 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAElBMVEUAAAACAgUAAQIAAAEw JSgBAQXXjlQ1AAACX0lEQVQ4jXVUQZKcMAwUKLkjwHewi7tthftS4QOeFP//yrbkqezmEE+Nq3Cj lrotQfKfRVNMSXWrmUgJGzH2XIQWe/i2GL+NqgHcT2LOxNVjMgOY8UjGIffiAZRVtTSnMtrxvu9p nGicWxEHFO+B4QeASxKxyu7A7ADTetuaZ5H1vl7iVTGrZj+/8TaAWwKAhCSVyI6ve+LF5Z1G1avs EZtLCak8AJQUQM8xGYByjYozaWL65cCHnSPlAaqcqOrmOgCYKgCn6cg1ReRx4Hc1QxyAJeDMVB1Y dljCms+A5KK1KvNg9arAc050PKBirZqzAx+jEO3yiLglTuWmTGVhbtANQJYsCvV5MKa6wcRZjsci Nk4QyAhYakT4C1SPGFWO4GLdhf9ITlAdgrkLcagK+fFuTUdA5tDEIzhF5hqzJokiryDtaRZhSjWm ik1qw+kT3oDGGGXOOkiIe0OA0ZlA1lTsdoq86tMg4zHA2kd1nwE1URON5E7FXqmMu4Sp7k+zqqxc waUNAuMBbiOqspiuA1cz51FLkFziYYfe7QvTXpNZjBQlHT2k95WgIbD25XyV5ysCVSUYCcDSfA0O cgwwkRPc/2eiFhoHmyml3QFIeI8aUTFbmI/qQGhvINMwDRMmbDul/S2qV0VyZQrKwzyG7+UmG1Iy +1fcSHEq3Ln397UNCRdVQDwa8FhVNrUy7RhfgXHM5uLjVWGt64WZNeqf8mpmL/UZLvfHhhwnBu1C K4YQAPigr4y5gOmY3MVbkab+BdlDhFLKp1rzduX8/ob0NWCGDtchm4f0DWOD/4jCPgGJ/4RAFsXw NQAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Grace Jones's _Hurricane Dub_: "Hell Dub" X-MailScanner-ID: 1RhQUr-0002HP-TV MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1326048665.9909@hI5TWDzQzcc7N6A+HsPk5g X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.224.195 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147129 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > My Emacs was not configured and built (on Windows) with GnuTLS. Nor > do I need it to send email via my ISP's mail server. Nevertheless, as > soon as I tried to send email after installing the GnuTLS DLLs and > executables, Emacs said it is invoking STARTTLS to communicate to my > SMTP server. Of course, this failed. What was the message exactly? Emacs shouldn't try to use STARTTLS if Emacs doesn't have STARTTLS capability, of course, so I'm wondering where the message is coming from. Could it be from starttls.el, for some reason or other? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/