From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: libnettle/libhogweed WIP
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 21:40:14 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3o9vq50m9.fsf@stories> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvinlzvvzk.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 20 Apr 2017 13:25:43 -0400")
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
> And by the time that carelessness bites the user, it'll be a lot more
> difficult to track down its source and fix it, because the
> misunderstanding will have carried over various parts of the design of
> his code. Lars understands this very well because Gnus's code is full
> of such problems.
Indeed. Even trivial things like forwarding files drifts irregularly
between states of "works now" and "destroys your files" as Gnus fights
and tries to work with the ever-changing Emacs DWIM machinery.
What's right for interactive use are often not the correct primitives
for implementing protocols. But if you have predictable primitives, you
can make Emacs DWIM interactively.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-04-20 19:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-02-20 10:00 How to ship native modules? Elias Mårtenson
2017-02-20 15:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-20 16:01 ` Elias Mårtenson
2017-02-20 16:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-21 2:48 ` Elias Mårtenson
2017-02-21 3:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-21 4:13 ` Elias Mårtenson
2017-02-21 16:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-21 20:06 ` John Wiegley
2017-02-21 14:44 ` Stefan Monnier
[not found] ` <CADtN0WLjNcFRLCsJNZX+XfqOcq+veTaoGkwHQCV9bjvuQoEORA@mail.gmail.com>
2017-02-21 15:48 ` Elias Mårtenson
2017-02-21 17:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-21 16:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-02 14:59 ` request to reconsider libnettle/libhogweed (was: How to ship native modules?) Ted Zlatanov
2017-03-02 15:19 ` request to reconsider libnettle/libhogweed Stefan Monnier
2017-03-02 15:55 ` request to reconsider libnettle/libhogweed (was: How to ship native modules?) Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-15 21:19 ` libnettle/libhogweed WIP (was: request to reconsider libnettle/libhogweed) Ted Zlatanov
2017-03-16 15:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-17 22:46 ` libnettle/libhogweed WIP Ted Zlatanov
2017-03-18 8:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-20 18:45 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-11 20:05 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-14 20:48 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-15 9:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-15 14:27 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-15 14:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-16 2:39 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-16 6:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-16 6:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-17 16:23 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-17 16:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-17 16:55 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-17 17:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-17 17:34 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-17 17:46 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-17 18:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-17 20:50 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-17 21:19 ` Noam Postavsky
2017-04-17 23:29 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-19 2:08 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-19 2:42 ` Noam Postavsky
2017-04-19 15:24 ` Davis Herring
2017-04-19 15:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-20 17:24 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-20 19:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-20 20:24 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-20 20:42 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-04-20 21:54 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-21 6:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-21 18:45 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-04-21 19:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-21 6:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-15 21:55 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-05-16 22:19 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-05-17 16:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-17 20:05 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-05-31 18:17 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-06-03 7:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-03 9:00 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-06-03 10:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-03 10:09 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-06-03 10:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-27 22:58 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-06-28 16:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-28 19:44 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-07-13 18:35 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-07-14 15:10 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-07-14 19:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-14 19:43 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-07-14 20:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-15 18:30 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-07-15 9:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-15 18:40 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-07-15 19:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-22 9:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-26 6:58 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-07-26 14:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-26 15:34 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-07-26 15:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-26 16:08 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-07-26 18:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-26 20:48 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-07-27 0:19 ` Paul Eggert
2017-07-27 2:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-27 4:36 ` Paul Eggert
2017-07-27 15:56 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-08-03 19:52 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-08-03 8:02 ` Paul Eggert
2017-08-03 16:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-18 17:44 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-19 12:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-04-19 13:38 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-19 14:16 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-04-19 14:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-04-19 14:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-19 14:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-04-19 15:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-19 15:48 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-19 16:49 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-04-19 17:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-19 19:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-04-20 2:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-20 3:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-04-20 15:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-20 15:59 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-04-20 16:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-20 17:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-04-20 19:40 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen [this message]
2017-04-20 20:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-20 19:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-20 20:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-20 17:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-04-20 19:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-19 19:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-04-17 16:00 ` rename STRING_SET_CHARS to STRING_SET_SIZE (was: libnettle/libhogweed WIP) Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-17 16:24 ` rename STRING_SET_CHARS to STRING_SET_SIZE Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-17 16:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-04-17 16:34 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-16 3:37 ` libnettle/libhogweed WIP Stefan Monnier
2017-04-16 6:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-16 13:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-04-16 7:47 ` Toon Claes
2017-03-02 17:58 ` request to reconsider libnettle/libhogweed Paul Eggert
2017-03-02 18:33 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-02-20 15:33 ` How to ship native modules? Aurélien Aptel
2017-02-21 4:50 ` Andreas Politz
2017-02-21 5:12 ` Elias Mårtenson
2017-02-21 5:23 ` Andreas Politz
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