From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sam Steingold Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Lisp and Guile Date: 11 Aug 2002 12:52:35 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200207200035.g6K0ZAb27891@aztec.santafe.edu> <200207212015.g6LKF4c00874@aztec.santafe.edu> <200207251807.g6PI75d07615@aztec.santafe.edu> <874renlito.fsf@zagadka.ping.de> <200207271853.g6RIre710837@aztec.santafe.edu> <200207310554.g6V5ssc16508@aztec.santafe.edu> <200208022214.g72MELZ01879@aztec.santafe.edu> <200208042325.g74NPtM03391@aztec.santafe.edu> <20020810001749.695883.FMU31823@piglet.prv.splode.com> Reply-To: sds@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1029084744 22417 127.0.0.1 (11 Aug 2002 16:52:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 16:52:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17dvx0-0005pS-00 for ; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 18:52:22 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17dwKd-0002ad-00 for ; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 19:16:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17dvxn-0002cX-00; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 12:53:11 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17dvxJ-0002bB-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 12:52:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17dvxE-0002az-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 12:52:40 -0400 Original-Received: from pool-151-203-42-138.bos.east.verizon.net ([151.203.42.138] helo=loiso.podval.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17dvxE-0002at-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 12:52:36 -0400 Original-Received: from loiso.podval.org (loiso [127.0.0.1]) by loiso.podval.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7BGqZd24833; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 12:52:35 -0400 Original-To: Noah Friedman X-Attribution: Sam X-Disclaimer: You should not expect anyone to agree with me. Mail-Copies-To: never In-Reply-To: <20020810001749.695883.FMU31823@piglet.prv.splode.com> Original-Lines: 27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:6446 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:6446 > * In message <20020810001749.695883.FMU31823@piglet.prv.splode.com> > * On the subject of "Re: Emacs Lisp and Guile" > * Sent on Sat, 10 Aug 2002 00:17:49 -0700 (PDT) > * Honorable Noah Friedman writes: > > >Yes, all such extensions can be done, and there are _several_ different > >incompatible object systems for Scheme, i.e., Scheme is at the stage > >where Common Lisp was 20 years ago, when there were several CL object > >systems. > > I don't expect that the decision is going to be made based on > popularity, but for what it's worth I agree with Sam. I hate writing > Scheme programs because every implementation is incompatible and > usually incomplete. On the other hand I've been able to take CL > programs and run them on a dozen systems. Precisely! Okay, RMS is not listening. Maybe XEmacs maintainers are more receptive to the voice of reason? -- Sam Steingold (http://www.podval.org/~sds) running RedHat7.3 GNU/Linux If your VCR is still blinking 12:00, you don't want Linux.