From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [rudalics@gmx.at: Re: [simon.marshall@misys.com: mouse-autoselect-window needs a de lay]] Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 16:05:47 +0200 Message-ID: References: <854pvpym4i.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <44FBEEFC.3040205@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1157378842 31507 80.91.229.2 (4 Sep 2006 14:07:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 14:07:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 04 16:07:20 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GKF6Z-0001qM-Sj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 16:07:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GKF6Z-0001w2-HC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 10:07:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GKF6N-0001vn-On for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 10:07:03 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GKF6L-0001uL-UL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 10:07:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GKF6L-0001uI-QJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 10:07:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.41.46.237] (helo=pfepc.post.tele.dk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GKFGo-0000UC-TD; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 10:17:51 -0400 Original-Received: from kfs-l.imdomain.dk.cua.dk (unknown [80.165.4.124]) by pfepc.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id E08BB8A0038; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:06:55 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: martin rudalics In-Reply-To: <44FBEEFC.3040205@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Mon\, 04 Sep 2006 11\:16\:44 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:59313 Archived-At: martin rudalics writes: >> I don't think that the delay stuff is a good strategy: it brakes and >> confuses the user when he indeed wants to change focus, and it causes >> hectic when he doesn't. > > That's what I thought before I started implementing this. Currently, I > use a value of -0.5, that is, wait for about a second after I started > moving the mouse and select the other window iff the mouse doesn't move > any more. So far I didn't notice any confusion with these settings. To me it makes more sense if this "move and stop" is the default method (ie. selected with a positive delay value). The negative value could be for experts which want just the move delay. But why not separate the two timeout settings, e.g. make it a cons with the "move delay" in the car and "stopped delay" in the cdr. That's easy to set via customize. -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk