From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: James Cloos Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated] Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 08:06:06 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20248.15413.907023.894588@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <4x1uqv4pbx.fsf_-_@fencepost.gnu.org> <056566D61BA5441E860782777E736F44@us.oracle.com> <4F18A26A.1020402@cs.ucla.edu> <20120120074922.GA3095@acm.acm> <4F1929BA.7020004@cs.ucla.edu> <838vl24thl.fsf@gnu.org> <4F19E7FC.40301@cs.ucla.edu> <20120121085905.GA3075@acm.acm> <4F1BC20F.2010001@cs.ucla.edu> <20120122102215.GA3042@acm.acm> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1327239030 31185 80.91.229.12 (22 Jan 2012 13:30:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 13:30:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Paul Eggert , ulm@gentoo.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 22 14:30:25 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RoxV0-0005HW-Br for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 14:30:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44271 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoxUz-0007B9-Tm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 08:30:21 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:58832) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoxUx-0007B4-K5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 08:30:20 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoxUw-0003mY-Pw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 08:30:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eagle.jhcloos.com ([207.210.242.212]:46645) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoxUu-0003mK-Lp; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 08:30:16 -0500 Original-Received: by eagle.jhcloos.com (Postfix, from userid 10) id BC904400FB; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 13:29:50 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jhcloos.com; s=eagle; t=1327239014; bh=ei/Q3rohQOpCBIUcpIDkbOaJkV0Ono6ikt0EwY3AG3E=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=J7S7qFQLVzuLrHKN+78VwRXN6QgE3wGoHYfLhhrs5dd0juU8eOmZjHMhKRsI466WL w7fTyoZWqKEHjsDpkTR16iv4bIpK/ItvM91H+A3w09ViSzuCFkUkZFia4FDmPu+0lQ 5FpoCAszaihih3J1rI549u5bEnHPTxFAUJRmlGoE= Original-Received: by carbon.jhcloos.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id DD2C036004C; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 13:06:06 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <20120122102215.GA3042@acm.acm> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Sun, 22 Jan 2012 10:22:16 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.92 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABAAAAAQAgMAAABinRfyAAAACVBMVEX///8ZGXBQKKnCrDQ3 AAAAJElEQVQImWNgQAAXzwQg4SKASgAlXIEEiwsSIYBEcLaAtMEAADJnB+kKcKioAAAAAElFTkSu QmCC Copyright: Copyright 2012 James Cloos OpenPGP: ED7DAEA6; url=http://jhcloos.com/public_key/0xED7DAEA6.asc OpenPGP-Fingerprint: E9E9 F828 61A4 6EA9 0F2B 63E7 997A 9F17 ED7D AEA6 Original-Lines: 42 X-Hashcash: 1:30:120122:acm@muc.de::MSTTu6Bn5LpuZ21P:000000BcCKw X-Hashcash: 1:30:120122:eggert@cs.ucla.edu::xJl7EfoxgG31M+Fj:000000000000000000000000000000000000000000BjS5g X-Hashcash: 1:30:120122:eliz@gnu.org::GNRD4bxuMmosglcW:0000g+xtG X-Hashcash: 1:30:120122:ulm@gentoo.org::dXIUhz+M+Ec63NKX:00xs4ix X-Hashcash: 1:30:120122:drew.adams@oracle.com::9ZMFT+QZAWAcN7f0:000000000000000000000000000000000000000pPlif X-Hashcash: 1:30:120122:emacs-devel@gnu.org::MEQbXRi9XiT0z88m:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000Ma26Q X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 207.210.242.212 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147834 Archived-At: >>>>> "AM" =3D=3D Alan Mackenzie writes: AM> So far I've been at it about 1=BD hours and got nowhere. I tried set= ting AM> LC_ALL (to en_UK.utf8), but haven't got `setupcon'. So I tried Gento= o's AM> way,=20 Terminus likely is the best font to use on the console for utf8: media-fonts/terminus-font with the default USE flags will work well. In /etc/conf.d/consolefont set the consolefont variable. I use: consolefont=3D"ter-v20b" the v stands for utf8, 20 is a 10x20 pixel font, b is bold (use n for single pixel wide stems, b for two pixel wide stems). I do not set consoletranslation or unicodemap in that file. Set unicode=3D"YES" in /etc/rc.conf. The default /etc/env.d/02locale is: LC_COLLATE=3D"C" LC_TIME=3D"C" You may want to add LANG=3Den_UK.UTF-8 to that. Or add it to your $HOME shell startup script. I'd leave the two LC_ settings, though. They are important for portage. You might want to set dumpkeys_charset in /etc/conf.d/keymaps. The comment explains it. For that keymap config in that file, I find that emacs2 works quite well. On gentoo that is stored in /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty/emacs2.map.gz. (The .map file is plain text.) That said, you might prefer "uk". Either way, though, I suspect that you'll find the quail input methods to be the only good way to enter non-ascii on the console. -JimC --=20 James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6