From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 19:08:39 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <2815659.zRQ0WWWeRr@descartes> <20141205175810.GD3120@thyrsus.com> <87lhmlncb1.fsf@earlgrey.lan> <20141205193643.GB5067@thyrsus.com> <83egsd3kyi.fsf@gnu.org> <871toapbh9.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <83ppbuxgxx.fsf@gnu.org> <83mw6yxeij.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418062158 26619 80.91.229.3 (8 Dec 2014 18:09:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 18:09:18 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 08 19:09:12 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy2kC-0005qp-4P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 19:09:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35356 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy2kB-0002dm-LL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 13:09:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43485) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy2k3-0002dM-NM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 13:09:09 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy2jx-0004KW-D6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 13:09:03 -0500 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:49662) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy2jx-0004KQ-7U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 13:08:57 -0500 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy2jf-0004bY-Mm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 19:08:39 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEWXeXLw7urIv7iwnJPf 2tT39vL+/vz8/Pr9/fr7+/j////6+vYhxBJ0AAACZElEQVQ4ja2TsU7cQBCGR1xeYCOuSNIkthuU xvLeA8TGFCQVEisFuaLAOKRCimJfqCIlvqVMw7FyhUQMMRWFBad9ufyzPigCihQpI0t3mm9nvll7 l7rH45wepNo816U5o8uFqXSldV3UeV4UeaH1tLEKwJhqphnomrN6Vk4tg3ZeYT1ArTUqAGbGKrWH ipLzGn1ytM+XFQ4wgYCjrotZxY6PLC+HGu2QdvL+CmBesrxwD0ZYzErT2A/UmtLJda2/BeL98Ybc LGHfx1SuEZYWb6R88pJotGZsv49WToHuu1KGE59GSWCavnCO0k31aZ0okjRJvLmxqLCYCvaiSHwK J+u04nnG2Jzlw7THQRpSkNCKlM8GMB+G2vP8kHwZwr7TAMDhxs13XRIP0Wvb5+wwR0KI8bWUjoyk BKiphfxw9d2WEFLSEqw1FgDjHoqxEDEtI6TNxskr/UOgYOMO0OiFZbCo9LUCeCXDO7KR9Z/dzoUS sQh4qnAUJTIIxsqBKk2FSCMfbyQJ0jRlwPI6TzyPIvLuw1W01UGbQvE0REZGno+fKFYnDK5SJcRq 6GGHhF1IGcXCgTMoxKofoUfKnfwoHgOcHpwHDky8FOokTZJ7EMVIhBFrEw9/A6GWgOsdGGIixCm1 N/lXzII367wy5C8vxC32ob+zz/PGNlOKXw7HDV1m1dE2thvvuMM+m5pGYfoFXWRmak66zl0BfHkc Ty6zdKGUbW5xrIrGciy7DaDP7MLwSs4OkowB4m7xvTyjbl7WJc7hH1f06uGtHeLn38B52nVJ8PYh +LX1pTvqn/9Dq0fj7D+C30AW7wz5PjUoAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Pixel's _Mantle_: "Line Level" X-Hashcash: 1:23:141208:emacs-devel@gnu.org::tiD/VppdXL2B/1WX:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000036Jy In-Reply-To: (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Mon, 08 Dec 2014 13:00:40 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-MailScanner-ID: 1Xy2jf-0004bY-Mm MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1418666919.83507@UY8rVaFq5XchP5z2l//iJQ X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.224.195 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179431 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > It's just tedious stuff. I get back into it after 15-30 minutes but > it's always a context switch. Me too. But that's the case with any markup language I've been in touch with. I forget what it's supposed to look like after a couple of months, so I just cargo cult some markup from other sections, and I'm off. If I do something bad, like use @xref istead of @pxref, magical elves suddenly appear and fix it. Texinfo isn't any worse than other markup languages. All modern markup languages have a really pretty way of generating the "Hello world" document, but once you start in with the indexing and cross referencing and and, it always turns complicated and ugly. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no