From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 12:44:02 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <2815659.zRQ0WWWeRr@descartes> <20141205175810.GD3120@thyrsus.com> <87wq66ufyt.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87zjb04tlw.fsf@gmx.us> <87bnnfve9c.fsf@dod.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418211892 9300 80.91.229.3 (10 Dec 2014 11:44:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 11:44:52 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 10 12:44:46 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XyfhD-000631-B5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2014 12:44:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45023 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XyfhC-0000A3-RC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2014 06:44:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60283) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xyfh3-00008F-4Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2014 06:44:38 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xyfgx-00032v-J5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2014 06:44:33 -0500 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:44408) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xyfgx-00032p-Cs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2014 06:44:27 -0500 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1XyfgY-0004ZK-Tl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2014 12:44:02 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEXg4ekAAFZtbpwAAFG7 u9AAAE8AAFIAAVcSFGIAAE0AAFAAAFPus4knAAACW0lEQVQ4jVWUwWvbMBTGjTFsxzWM7dCLOgwd 9DY1hqqXxggS2DHoEB/nIYZ16dggg13cEZbBjsMw5+olUPWUbniD98/tSbLs1CAC78f3vfek9xI0 CkCCpFrU3VdVDcCz4A7sp+TFoic7+LsM7lDRKiVZH683Ep4vg0uQsjVerAdzZYACqaSUOWWZB42E 5TJAgf0o29x64BStA2wsFg8UysVzuq0PrFABzitn2jvVO7k3oLO66AUIBkWSD+Vu6ABaY3UA9qZc 7NtUS7c+xw+pHECEqmKx6AF0QKGVpFsPqp2zMlE0o6Ivt7GgNVFsvxCHfXQ58HITJm67LFXSJb/n fMXTFZ/F+BPHfMb5jQOPS/KSkDUn5YuQfAo/TssTByJeRhH5YAAnNPw1uT5FsIf7R/DkjKyikJR4 mvBVEN14BUZXURqXeOIgvYrWCI5h5HJ8dzloeP762uQ4gpHL8dXlYOH51ILj/Wj6/umJLbXEk6T/ uLeKAlT45JgjChzo+vgckzINiQzfTpwVKtKSX5FvPsebWXlqyx1N4M9Z/KW7Ep2+43zdXSKYu/9N RVXVos6kgiM3iQrc/AyzYID0AzcMQ67AgcQOw9i/7CWzs9uagcMtoNS/4Fw6IO3L0sHKvGAHWuvl FRuKAje78ABgvQa0uICtLasHqrXTjnOIjWC5fkFwae2qoY85g1XV2D5yatrI82FE66xRuOc6w0pz Nu6rxUYc0Jphd9t+Nesqowqttg2GqWRM+D+TTNscQhuNbopBMU+MotA6E1rmSTFYJdhh8JOiSWbK 8uWKxkz7f6FpCrQFDZ9YAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Dean Blunt's _The Narcissist II_: "(untitled)" X-Hashcash: 1:23:141210:emacs-devel@gnu.org::4jDRHIm3S4ZEPX0g:000000000000000000000000000000000000000001GycS In-Reply-To: (Steinar Bang's message of "Wed, 10 Dec 2014 11:48:17 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-MailScanner-ID: 1XyfgY-0004ZK-Tl MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1418816643.95487@zElelbzP7lYs8aJ1XpTuEQ X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.224.195 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179644 Archived-At: Steinar Bang writes: > (But even with the extras added, the org example document will be in the > "hello world" document class, and as Lars said in a different place in > this thread: "hello world" documents for all markup languages look clear > and understandable) If we're looking for new formats, perhaps the proponents could point us to example documents in each format used to format a manual? I've yet to see a real-world "easy formatting" language used in the wild that didn't make me throw up, just a bit, in my mouth. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no