From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: `xterm-mouse-mode' has a bogus Custom group Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 10:44:19 +0200 Message-ID: References: <200504020351.j323ppS16391@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <16974.11752.332998.125628@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <200504021346.j32Dk3e19471@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <16978.12100.857894.861739@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <200504060000.j3600bm15264@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1112864040 23853 80.91.229.2 (7 Apr 2005 08:54:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 08:54:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: nickrob@snap.net.nz, teirllm@dms.auburn.edu, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 07 10:53:57 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJSlh-0000ET-1B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 10:53:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJSKx-0002Hk-Fg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 04:26:03 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DJSH3-0001ZP-A5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 04:22:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJSH2-0001QV-8t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 04:22:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [212.88.64.25] (helo=mail-relay.sonofon.dk) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DJSdV-0007JR-UO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 04:45:14 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 75059 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2005 08:44:35 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO kfs-l.imdomain.dk.cua.dk) (213.83.150.2) by 0 with SMTP; 7 Apr 2005 08:44:35 -0000 Original-To: David Kastrup In-Reply-To: (David Kastrup's message of "Thu, 07 Apr 2005 01:22:08 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:35684 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:35684 David Kastrup writes: > Richard Stallman writes: > >> The console clearly is exclusively a feature of the kernel. >> >> The console is implemented by the kernel, but you use it to log in >> to the whole system. > > There are embedded Linux systems that are most definitely not GNU, and > for example the system at > runs Linux, but not the GNU system. Does Emacs run on those systems? The "Linux kernel console" -- as the user sees it on a GNU/Linux system-- is typically just a process started by the kernel which runs "/bin/sh". So when the user interacts with the console, he is interacting with GNU software (e.g. bash), not the kernel. -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk