From: Tom Tromey <tromey@redhat.com>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: joakim@verona.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: CVS is the `released version'
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 10:33:55 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3k5v2xhjg.fsf@fleche.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1Hq5Cj-0002jK-DD@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon\, 21 May 2007 06\:33\:29 -0400")
>>>>> "rms" == Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
rms> It seems that part of your motivation for wanting a package system is
rms> to move Emacs development in a direction that weakens the FSF's
rms> ability to develop Emacs as an FSF-copyrighted package.
rms> This confirms my concern about the downside.
I was a bit surprised, and I suppose a little hurt, to read this.
Please ask about my motives rather than try to infer what they might
be.
I don't want to weaken the FSF's ability to develop emacs as an
FSF-copyright package. I think that would be a bad idea.
My real motivation is that I got tired of jumping through hoops to
download and try out Emacs extensions. I thought it would be fun and
useful to try to solve this problem in a user-friendly way.
In my view package.el does not make Emacs worse in any way. To the
extent that it enables unassigned work, it is simply reflecting the
actually existing state of affairs -- there are many Emacs packages
which, for whatever reason, are not FSF-assigned and that probably
will never be.
There's another way to address this 3rd party elisp problem: you could
do outreach to the authors and ask them to contribute to Emacs. ELL
and the Emacs Wiki have a long list of potential contributors.
Tom
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-05-21 16:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 146+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-09 19:56 CVS is the `released version' Robert J. Chassell
2007-05-09 19:59 ` Thomas Hühn
2007-05-10 2:00 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-05-10 6:03 ` Thomas Hühn
2007-05-10 11:43 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-05-10 11:47 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-10 6:58 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-10 11:58 ` Andrea Russo
2007-05-10 12:34 ` Thomas Hühn
2007-05-09 20:12 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-10 2:18 ` Chong Yidong
2007-05-10 18:24 ` Ken Manheimer
2007-05-10 19:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-11 18:48 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-11 20:19 ` joakim
2007-05-12 16:47 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-12 20:26 ` joakim
2007-05-13 8:49 ` Ryan Yeske
2007-05-13 9:38 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-13 11:28 ` Ralf Angeli
2007-05-13 12:53 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-14 1:43 ` Tom Tromey
2007-05-14 8:09 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-14 15:19 ` Tom Tromey
2007-05-14 18:29 ` Ryan Yeske
2007-05-16 2:23 ` Mike Mattie
2007-05-14 1:17 ` Tom Tromey
2007-05-14 5:06 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2007-05-14 6:47 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-14 15:07 ` Tom Tromey
2007-05-14 17:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-14 6:41 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-14 8:02 ` joakim
2007-05-14 15:10 ` Tom Tromey
2007-05-14 18:41 ` Ryan Yeske
2007-05-14 19:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-05-14 19:16 ` Tom Tromey
2007-05-14 22:36 ` Ryan Yeske
2007-05-16 15:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-17 12:43 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-17 14:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-15 23:52 ` thorne
2007-05-18 23:10 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-18 23:31 ` Tom Tromey
2007-05-19 22:31 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-19 22:33 ` Tom Tromey
2007-05-20 17:05 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-20 21:45 ` Tom Tromey
2007-05-21 5:19 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-21 10:33 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-21 10:46 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-21 18:36 ` JD Smith
2007-05-21 18:47 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-21 18:51 ` Chong Yidong
2007-05-21 19:02 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-22 14:52 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-25 21:13 ` Ken Manheimer
2007-05-25 21:24 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-05-26 7:01 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-28 3:10 ` dhruva
2007-05-29 0:02 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-29 6:21 ` dhruva
2007-05-29 9:30 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-05-29 10:30 ` Frank Schmitt
2007-05-29 14:36 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-05-29 14:45 ` Frank Schmitt
2007-05-29 17:49 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-05-29 22:00 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-30 15:43 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-30 16:15 ` joakim
2007-06-02 17:29 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-03 9:56 ` Frank Schmitt
2007-05-30 15:44 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-30 21:55 ` Frank Schmitt
2007-05-31 22:32 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-30 4:27 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-03 3:23 ` Tom Tromey
2007-05-22 8:30 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-21 16:33 ` Tom Tromey [this message]
2007-05-21 18:32 ` CVS is the `released version' (ELL and the ohio lisp archive) Stephen Eglen
2007-05-24 21:22 ` CVS is the `released version' Richard Stallman
2007-05-24 21:58 ` New Extensions (was: Re: CVS is the `released version') Henrik Enberg
2007-05-24 21:22 ` CVS is the `released version' Richard Stallman
2007-05-21 12:03 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-05-21 12:13 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-21 12:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-21 13:18 ` jasonr
2007-05-21 15:39 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-05-22 10:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-22 11:18 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-05-22 13:36 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-22 15:19 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-05-22 15:37 ` Jason Rumney
2007-05-22 15:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-22 17:24 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-05-23 14:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-23 15:02 ` Jason Rumney
2007-05-23 19:08 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-05-21 2:57 ` Bob Rogers
2007-05-21 13:24 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-21 16:22 ` Tom Tromey
2007-05-21 12:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-21 16:41 ` Tom Tromey
2007-05-21 19:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-22 4:38 ` Xavier Maillard
2007-05-20 7:54 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-20 21:53 ` Tom Tromey
2007-05-21 5:24 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-21 5:53 ` dhruva
2007-05-21 6:51 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-21 8:47 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-05-21 9:22 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-21 13:24 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-21 13:51 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-24 21:22 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-21 10:17 ` package.el (was: Re: CVS is the `released version') David Reitter
2007-05-21 17:40 ` package.el Tom Tromey
2007-05-21 18:13 ` package.el David Kastrup
2007-05-21 22:43 ` package.el David Reitter
2007-05-21 22:51 ` package.el Tom Tromey
2007-05-21 23:48 ` package.el Davis Herring
2007-05-21 23:56 ` package.el Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-05-25 21:39 ` package.el Tom Tromey
2007-05-27 1:00 ` package.el Richard Stallman
2007-05-21 23:50 ` package.el David Reitter
2007-05-21 23:44 ` package.el Tom Tromey
2007-05-22 2:21 ` package.el Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-05-22 10:18 ` package.el Stefan Monnier
2007-05-21 22:57 ` package.el David Kastrup
2007-05-20 22:05 ` CVS is the `released version' Richard Stallman
2007-05-19 22:31 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-19 22:31 ` Tom Tromey
2007-05-20 17:05 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-20 21:23 ` Tom Tromey
2007-05-21 12:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-21 13:03 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-21 14:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-21 16:50 ` Tom Tromey
2007-05-22 14:51 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-22 6:10 ` Trent Buck
2007-05-22 7:56 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-24 21:22 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-10 20:42 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-10 23:05 ` Lukasz Stafiniak
2007-05-10 23:23 ` Davis Herring
2007-05-11 12:31 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
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