From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Frank Schmitt Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Improving X selection? Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:56:50 +0200 Organization: Hamme net, kren mer och nimmi Message-ID: References: <20071012105022.6c8b174a@tweety> <874pgtfw1y.fsf@jbms.ath.cx> <4713067D.2060504@swipnet.se> <87fy0cdvr6.fsf@jbms.ath.cx> <471467FF.5070005@swipnet.se> <87vdxy2kwo.fsf@localhorst.mine.nu> <87tzdanllg.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1219943471 1370 80.91.229.12 (28 Aug 2008 17:11:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:11:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 28 19:12:05 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KYl2E-0003OE-4y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:11:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46324 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KYl1F-0005A9-ID for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:10:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KYl1B-00059m-GK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:10:45 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KYl18-000596-48 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:10:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55947 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KYl17-000591-U0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:10:41 -0400 Original-Received: from deliver.uni-koblenz.de ([141.26.64.15]:26287) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KYl17-0003oD-An for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:10:41 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A9ED78975A1; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:10:29 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from deliver.uni-koblenz.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (deliver.uni-koblenz.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08084-07; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:10:27 +0200 (CEST) X-CHKRCPT: Envelopesender vrfy ich@frank-schmitt.net Original-Received: from glasgow.frank-schmitt.net (unknown [194.157.96.166]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E8BE7896801; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:10:27 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from glasgow.frank-schmitt.net.Frank-Schmitt.net (glasgow.frank-schmitt.net [127.0.0.1]) by glasgow.frank-schmitt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8275B9709F; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:56:50 +0200 (CEST) X-Face: :EL9TzGRN){7|oE2~xQ8Q(VjpjsXgX$~gi&rYD5J5p)$w\Thdl~v:7h`/n)J!8nXT%_+Wj6}@EHM8}QbA(9nX-wrQ:ch1%DauV[?kFasXUcnL#+"K8zOx&$@/M'/}, q-eztaJra1|?C+p$h\2XnK-HB"8_U (Juri Linkov's message of "Mon\, 25 Aug 2008 18\:34\:35 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at uni-koblenz.de X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:103076 Archived-At: Juri Linkov writes: >>>>> Please ignore this if it's already been hammered to death, but what about >>>>> using C-Insert/Shift-Insert for the clipboard? >>>> >>>> That would make a lot of sense to me, >>> >>> Shift-Insert is kind of quasi standard to paste the *selection* on X11. >>> This would make emacs behavior even more "non standard". I don't care >>> much, just wanted to note that. >> >> I do care much. I use Shift-Insert to paste selection and Control+Insert >> to set selection all the time. If the behavior of those keys was >> changed, I'd be really p. off. > > Do you use Shift-Insert and Control-Insert because other programs > provide the same keys for the same functionality (i.e. copy to the > clipboard and paste from the clipboard)? In this case, it is more > annoying when these keys don't work as expected in other programs > based on CUA guidelines that specify Shift-Insert and Control-Insert > to work with the clipboard. They do? For me selecting text with the mouse (and doing nothing else) and then pasting with Sift+Insert works in Emacs, Firefox, KDE programs... -- Have you ever considered how much text can fit in eighty columns? Given that a signature typically contains up to four lines of text, this space allows you to attach a tremendous amount of valuable information to your messages. Seize the opportunity and don't waste your signature on bullshit that nobody cares about.