From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.orgmode Subject: Re: Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch? Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 15:22:20 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87k29d7zvw.fsf@engster.org> <87fuk08i01.fsf@engster.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1485872627 18747 195.159.176.226 (31 Jan 2017 14:23:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 14:23:47 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Bastien Guerry , Emacs developers , emacs-org list , Phillip Lord , Kaushal Modi To: David Engster Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 31 15:23:42 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cYZLS-0004jf-8L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 15:23:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38502 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cYZLX-0007eg-KL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:23:47 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44260) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cYZKL-0007dL-Oy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:22:35 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cYZKK-0000Np-Py for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:22:33 -0500 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:51205) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cYZKG-0000Lc-8w; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:22:28 -0500 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=stories) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cYZK8-0006he-La; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 15:22:22 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAKlBMVEWB/v4AAOAAAOMIMfsL e/wFBvo88/0HrP0AAO0IFvsBAN0LUfoAAOgAAP9eAcMbAAABpklEQVQ4jX3SMWuDQBQH8Df1Q5Qu 3ULJdukQHBWkZHaQInQIly8guSFTAgWHZgo3HCFDnIpkM5Dh6JBNAp2CoIPfpXfR04sxfYN4/rh7 /6dCJKsfJEFTc/kI5CX5TAutsnkFYZAzxuiQMsqYp8FueY45H3EzNkeDH7FFwdMyd1zHocylrtxR fD2WkHjFdWUlhEnRhpcLBMsbON2Do4RtcguLCwTt50VxgX47k8wrodcBIi9EidMBzxK6dhwj2AZd MI/gdu4yFoQdaWUs2N2M9y9kp3twhKiGVIuXzSH6VQvGGkgXDeQIsWJTd2+OWhlChg2EFaSIc4TQ poZvdZLBRcWqT1DDmVuWALUlg55qIUAQeq1OBvUO1/sSaLWuwbBsX7Svh1GQ723iu3EzIqgx1gKQ Dl51807IzDA1UKHsKZntzU0HYDzej2gDVQ82wBhPfR7TFhjGVMjkQKzhNQx8LIsQK/Z0cA53wLUJ /gDAY2KZeqqcCgCAhwnxTU+DtLAa2Ohz5Pb0Atj233RwnEM3MHbAJRA/1mHF7RqqjwvyZ09RXAJg X8EfRu0wFrq2O7cAAAAASUVORK5CYII= In-Reply-To: (John Wiegley's message of "Mon, 30 Jan 2017 16:52:22 -0500") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 80.91.224.195 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:211789 gmane.emacs.orgmode:111782 Archived-At: John Wiegley writes: > We're moving toward a future where Emacs.git will represent "core > Emacs", and only contain what core needs (plus a few historical bits, > I'm sure). There should be no argument for keeping a project in core > just to gain auxiliary benefits. I'm massively unenthusiastic about this future. Things in ELPA has to be backwards-and-forwards compatible with a wide Emacs version range, which makes maintaining things much more work. When you develop things in "Emacs core", you have one specific target and can make large internal changes without these considerations. Emacs doesn't seem to have a massive surfeit of developers, so I wonder where this plan comes from. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no