From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Visual cleanup for customize buffers Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 16:24:53 +0100 Message-ID: References: <200601130008.k0D08P114618@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1137178526 16292 80.91.229.2 (13 Jan 2006 18:55:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 18:55:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 13 19:55:23 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ExU54-0005yW-3s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 19:55:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ExU7C-0000JN-HW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 13:57:34 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ExQqx-0005QM-W0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 10:28:36 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ExQqm-0005Mo-Tb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 10:28:32 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ExQql-0005MI-3S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 10:28:23 -0500 Original-Received: from [195.41.46.237] (helo=pfepc.post.tele.dk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ExQtk-0003vg-Or for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 10:31:29 -0500 Original-Received: from kfs-l.imdomain.dk.cua.dk (unknown [80.165.4.124]) by pfepc.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 32C9F262860; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 16:26:06 +0100 (CET) Original-To: Luc Teirlinck In-Reply-To: <200601130008.k0D08P114618@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (Luc Teirlinck's message of "Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:08:25 -0600 (CST)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:49003 Archived-At: Luc Teirlinck writes: > Kim Storm wrote: > > - For choice values, replace the old [Value Menu] Value > by the more common [Value v] (where v is a "pull down" icon) > > I personally find [Value Menu] clearer. It is not clear to me at all. Quite often, it is NOT a "value menu", but rather a "type menu", where you select what type of value to assign to the variable. Did you try installing my patch and try my examples (before and after)? Notably, try M-x customize-option cua-normal-cursor-color and change the value to "color and type". > > - Remove the empty line between the [STATE] line and the documentation. > > That empty line was added between 21.3 and now. I do not know the > reason for that. It might be because some people thought that the > empty line made things look clearer, IMO, it doesn't... > or it might be related to the > fact that the widget library sometimes _needs_ blank lines between > certain types of widgets to function properly. Wouldn't a space be sufficient? > I personally ran into > some not immediately obvious instances of that. (Though not with this > particular empty line.) > > I think that it definitely would be a bad idea to remove the line > without knowing why it was added. Is this really important enough to > worry about? IMO, yes. -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk