From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: joakim@verona.se Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: copyrights to be fixed Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 14:18:30 +0100 Message-ID: References: <200702090136.25838.pogonyshev@gmx.net> <86irebhkgg.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <87r6szr7c7.fsf@pacem.orebokech.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1171199943 3134 80.91.229.12 (11 Feb 2007 13:19:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:19:03 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 11 14:19:01 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HGEbc-0002dH-RZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 14:19:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HGEbc-0000yW-An for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 08:19:00 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HGEbP-0000yQ-VW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 08:18:47 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HGEbN-0000yE-Hu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 08:18:47 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HGEbN-0000yB-Bs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 08:18:45 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1HGEbM-00049K-U4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 08:18:45 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HGEbF-0005h1-IZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 14:18:37 +0100 Original-Received: from ua-83-227-131-3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se ([83.227.131.3]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 14:18:37 +0100 Original-Received: from joakim by ua-83-227-131-3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 14:18:37 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 70 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ua-83-227-131-3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.0.92 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:b+qry9feGmJ62CEzJXgukz/p/Io= X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:66258 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > Are there major gaps in the features? > > No, not that I have seen. > > A small number of people can't tell the answer to this question by > running the program. > > We need the people who implemented the multi-tty code to tell us > whether there are cases they have not handled yet that need to be > handled to avoid loss of functionality. This readme contains a list of known issues: http://lorentey.hu/downloads/emacs/multi-tty/README.multi-tty For convenience I paste the Known Problems list here: Known problems: * GTK support. If you compile your Emacs with the GTK toolkit, some functionality of multi-tty will be lost. In particular, you will not be able to work on multiple X displays at once. Current releases of GTK have limitations and bugs that prevent full-blown multi-display support in Emacs. (GTK crashes when Emacs tries to disconnect from an X server.) Use the Lucid toolkit if you want to see a complete feature set. * The single-kboard mode. If your multi-tty Emacs session seems to be frozen, you probably have a recursive editing session or a pending minibuffer prompt (which is a kind of recursive editing) on another display. To unfreeze your session, switch to that display and complete the recursive edit, for example by pressing C-] (`abort-recursive-edit'). I am sorry to say that currently there is no way to break out of this "single-kboard mode" from a frozen display. If you are unable to switch to the display that locks the others (for example because it is on a remote computer), then you can use emacsclient to break out of all recursive editing sessions: emacsclient -e '(top-level)' Note that this (perhaps) unintuitive behaviour is by design. Single-kboard mode is required because of an intrinsic Emacs limitation that is very hard to eliminate. (This limitation is related to the single-threaded nature of Emacs.) I plan to implement better user notification and support for breaking out of single-kboard mode from locked displays. * Mac, Windows and DOS support is broken, doesn't even compile. Multiple display support will probably not provide new Emacs features on these systems, but the multi-tty branch changed a few low-level interfaces, and the system-dependent source files need to be adapted accordingly. The changes are mostly trivial, so almost anyone can help, if only by compiling the branch and reporting the compiler errors. -- Joakim Verona http://www.verona.se