From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: joakim@verona.se Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Two strange messages while building Emacs on MS-Windows Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 23:57:57 +0100 Message-ID: References: <83mwxpmtp6.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1354921098 13725 80.91.229.3 (7 Dec 2012 22:58:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 22:58:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Dani Moncayo To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 07 23:58:30 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Th6sG-0006iu-G1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 23:58:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50838 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Th6s4-0007uB-Ek for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 17:58:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:52323) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Th6s2-0007st-2X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 17:58:15 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Th6s0-0000Lf-LJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 17:58:13 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.bahnhof.se ([213.80.101.11]:60147) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Th6ry-0000LK-Uk; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 17:58:11 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (mf.bahnhof.se [213.80.101.20]) by mx1-reinject (Postfix) with ESMTP id C78AE295B1D; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 23:58:09 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at bahnhof.se (MF1) Original-Received: from mf1.bahnhof.se ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mf1.bahnhof.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BCJTYsGf2sO9; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 23:58:08 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from exodia.verona.se (h-235-102.a149.priv.bahnhof.se [85.24.235.102]) by mf1.bahnhof.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC6D5AEA876; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 23:58:07 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from chopper.vpn.verona.se (DIR-655.verona.se [192.168.200.86]) by exodia.verona.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7427A4E063D; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 23:57:57 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <83mwxpmtp6.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 07 Dec 2012 23:35:33 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Mac OS X 10.x X-Received-From: 213.80.101.11 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:155354 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 21:17:04 +0100 >> From: Dani Moncayo >> Cc: Emacs development discussions >> >> I was following Eli's advice for doing incremental builds >> (http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=12128#20), since >> bootstrapping takes a lot more time. > > That advice wasn't meant to be used for producing distributions, only > for your own use. > >> But, why the makefiles don't take care all necessary recompilations? > > Because we don't have a good way of tracking dependencies between Lisp > files. > >> Being forced to do a full bootstrap is too bad. > > Why is it too bad for a distribution you do once in a while? Let it > run in a separate directory, and you can meanwhile do something else. > > How much time does it take you to bootstrap, btw? And on what > machine? > >> Is not there a better solution for this? > > No. Which is why admin/make-tarball.txt, the file documenting the > procedure to produce a release tarball, says: > > 2. Bootstrap to make 100% sure all elc files are up-to-date, and to > make sure that the later tagged version will bootstrap, should it be > necessary to check it out. Is it possible to compile for windows on gnu/linux using wine or something? It would be interesting to setup a windows build job on my new build server. -- Joakim Verona