From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Towards a cleaner build: other output Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 16:19:52 +0200 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="204431"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Noam Postavsky , Emacs developers To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 20 16:36:53 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hdyBI-000qyn-8s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 20 Jun 2019 16:36:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48332 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hdyBH-0004K2-3S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 20 Jun 2019 10:36:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37605) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hdy7p-0008Fp-B9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Jun 2019 10:33:45 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hdxuz-0003Co-EA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Jun 2019 10:21:50 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:43442) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hdxux-0003AM-Fj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Jun 2019 10:19:59 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=stories) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hdxuq-0007kS-RB; Thu, 20 Jun 2019 16:19:55 +0200 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAElBMVEUJBwgGAwUFAwRXP08H BAYEAgOZ8iukAAACYklEQVQ4jWVUW5LjIAyUAwewWPI/qMw/U8wBwNEBYmq4/1W2MXaqtpYkjq3W Wy0TFfXO895bi711icJeiyWigqviVIbEa3WqQwwAP8j9kPLQKDSPzut5iioXk/NloWThdTiA8oNy nshpaW97nA9g9fb3D2DX69n+B3y8KHNJRAiexpMHUMvigld18Q2RSafaitoKVdadK26/PvZ+eLfO 65Nxdj9yH0D9LbiBLq+Vq2NY65njaWvRKOUqoda4JjrbUjcAi0AulQV4MTNGDUAXj4TYeR858BWc B+DcMyCyk2OXUNIENh1mQYITAeqOkm+g0B63wBIbEK80gXCUQg7qTmLswqHR5eqoKy0hSgMQYLOa C2hc6TQRdrFzoDwB3UY5MtQlyHPzVwjSzs9GKr2DPU56u6fgQ3XyfsxU20jsLhAF9DfUe2wNBiKn 2FAA934XUBAA/D0PP0aI4XKPyD9+Lc9FFn6siy83gIpj+4MkE77m4aRMoPXe3+nDCAZXB1OoIckj 59e3z/X1rXsXIAXFhLbxZtIr/yTQJhtr7Byt9BD49DpPyhj/QI7eYrAwgPAF1/mHp4VDSQzhAAYH MzydwNHQ8GIL0rUvYyj7a3WOFtEVD11muDKp3hay6Q6gltOVgbM0gWPjUjnrK81WXIuGJgr47ofi BVyjDUGdL/oCMlwNi9mf0H2xzokfdWHt1F4bHfqBEFy/jEmWUtG6zqx2zKOBsSvyeZiMfdGzv4S5 sTS8LqwfbxBsCLiJJSGQD5Af1A0hOMbHjTyp9waWgxDYDUYKHn8zyAKCyFFPPo+Exjjg8y+NHJcx 9JGWSgAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 20 Jun 2019 09:23:16 -0400") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 80.91.231.51 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:237969 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >>> (put '* 'variable-documentation "Most recent value evaluated in IELM.") >> >> Oh, nice. I'll put that in. > > In `master` you can even use `internal--define-uninitialized-variable`, > which does all that `defvar` and `defconst` do except for setting the > actual variable. And autoload.el won't recognize it as a definition. Hm... But is using `internal--define-uninitialized-variable' perhaps more obscure than using (defvar sym) (put sym)? If that's something that can be used "non-internally", perhaps it should have a different name? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no