* Making w3 better
@ 2004-07-28 15:27 Mark A. Hershberger
2004-07-28 16:30 ` Alan Shutko
2004-07-29 15:58 ` Masatake YAMATO
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From: Mark A. Hershberger @ 2004-07-28 15:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
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w3 is looking a little better, but it still lacks a lot. I'd like to
use it instead of w3m for viewing text/html parts in emails (and for
posting to weblogs from with Emacs), but I'm running into the
following two problems.
1) Empty element tags are not properly supported. For example,
http://www.intertwingly.net/blog/ has 7 empty elements in the
<head>. These are displayed as ">" before everything else on the
page.
2) Image support is minimal. Whenever gnus attempts to display a
message that contains an <img> tag, it reverts to display the html
itself instead rendering the html. Web pages that contain images
do not display those images at all.
I can take care of 1), but 2) is another issue. I don't understand
how Emacs handles images well enough to do much with them. If
someone could point me in the right direction, that would help.
Mark.
--
A choice between one man and a shovel, or a dozen men with teaspoons
is clear to me, and I'm sure it is clear to you also.
-- Zimran Ahmed <http://www.winterspeak.com/>
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* Re: Making w3 better
2004-07-28 15:27 Making w3 better Mark A. Hershberger
@ 2004-07-28 16:30 ` Alan Shutko
2004-07-28 19:45 ` Mark A. Hershberger
2004-07-29 15:58 ` Masatake YAMATO
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From: Alan Shutko @ 2004-07-28 16:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
mah@everybody.org (Mark A. Hershberger) writes:
> 2) Image support is minimal. Whenever gnus attempts to display a
> message that contains an <img> tag, it reverts to display the html
> itself instead rendering the html. Web pages that contain images
> do not display those images at all.
The problem here is that by the time that w3 has download the images
and trys to place them (this is done asynchronously) Gnus has set the
buffer to read-only. (It may have also copied the results to another
buffer, I can't remember.)
I think this is more an Gnus problem than a W3 problem, so you might
want to ask on the gnus list.
--
Alan Shutko <ats@acm.org> - I am the rocks.
Closets are made for clothes.
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* Re: Making w3 better
2004-07-28 16:30 ` Alan Shutko
@ 2004-07-28 19:45 ` Mark A. Hershberger
2004-07-28 21:24 ` Kim F. Storm
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From: Mark A. Hershberger @ 2004-07-28 19:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Alan Shutko <ats@acm.org> writes:
> The problem here is that by the time that w3 has download the images
> and trys to place them (this is done asynchronously) Gnus has set the
> buffer to read-only. (It may have also copied the results to another
> buffer, I can't remember.)
>
> I think this is more an Gnus problem than a W3 problem, so you might
> want to ask on the gnus list.
Maybe, but even when I try to use w3 to view various websites, images
are not placed correctly.
How would I go about debugging that? I admit that I'm a little
intimidated by the asynchronous aspect of it.
Mark.
--
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is clear to me, and I'm sure it is clear to you also.
-- Zimran Ahmed <http://www.winterspeak.com/>
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* Re: Making w3 better
2004-07-28 19:45 ` Mark A. Hershberger
@ 2004-07-28 21:24 ` Kim F. Storm
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From: Kim F. Storm @ 2004-07-28 21:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: emacs-devel
mah@everybody.org (Mark A. Hershberger) writes:
> Alan Shutko <ats@acm.org> writes:
>
> Maybe, but even when I try to use w3 to view various websites, images
> are not placed correctly.
>
> How would I go about debugging that? I admit that I'm a little
> intimidated by the asynchronous aspect of it.
Maybe the new support for sliced images and the flexible line-spacing
available in CVS emacs (see the NEWS file) can be used to properly
align images and allow text to flow around images.
For example use, look at the function insert-sliced-image in
lisp/image.c
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Kim F. Storm <storm@cua.dk> http://www.cua.dk
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* Re: Making w3 better
2004-07-28 15:27 Making w3 better Mark A. Hershberger
2004-07-28 16:30 ` Alan Shutko
@ 2004-07-29 15:58 ` Masatake YAMATO
2004-07-29 16:13 ` Mark A. Hershberger
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From: Masatake YAMATO @ 2004-07-29 15:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: emacs-devel
> w3 is looking a little better, but it still lacks a lot. I'd like to
> use it instead of w3m for viewing text/html parts in emails (and for
> posting to weblogs from with Emacs), but I'm running into the
> following two problems.
Do you mean that "w3m" is emacs-w3m or not?
About emacs-w3m, as a heavy emacs, I cannot find any strong weakness.
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* Re: Making w3 better
2004-07-29 15:58 ` Masatake YAMATO
@ 2004-07-29 16:13 ` Mark A. Hershberger
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From: Mark A. Hershberger @ 2004-07-29 16:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: emacs-devel
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Masatake YAMATO <jet@gyve.org> writes:
> Do you mean that "w3m" is emacs-w3m or not?
> About emacs-w3m, as a heavy emacs, I cannot find any strong weakness.
I agree that emacs-w3m is very nice. I just wanted to have something
in elisp.
--
A choice between one man and a shovel, or a dozen men with teaspoons
is clear to me, and I'm sure it is clear to you also.
-- Zimran Ahmed <http://www.winterspeak.com/>
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