From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [NEW PATCH] mouse-1 click follows link Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 00:33:15 +0100 Message-ID: References: <200410292354.i9TNsCq01994@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200410310034.i9V0YX903876@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1103067277 20540 80.91.229.6 (14 Dec 2004 23:34:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 23:34:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 15 00:34:31 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CeMBa-00076D-00 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 00:34:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CeMLl-00080E-05 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Dec 2004 18:45:01 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CeMLN-0007zt-OX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Dec 2004 18:44:37 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CeMLM-0007zM-Nn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Dec 2004 18:44:36 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CeMLM-0007zC-LU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Dec 2004 18:44:36 -0500 Original-Received: from [195.41.46.235] (helo=pfepa.post.tele.dk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CeM9x-0001et-UB; Tue, 14 Dec 2004 18:32:50 -0500 Original-Received: from kfs-l.imdomain.dk.cua.dk (0x503e2644.bynxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [80.62.38.68]) by pfepa.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id DCF0D47FE6B; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 00:32:37 +0100 (CET) Original-To: bob@rattlesnake.com In-Reply-To: (Robert J. Chassell's message of "Tue, 14 Dec 2004 20:13:55 +0000 (UTC)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:31131 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:31131 "Robert J. Chassell" writes: > ** A mouse-1 click now follows links > > For historical reasons, Emacs uses mouse-2 to take action on > clickable text in a buffer ... > > Please explain why. The main reason was good -- the Emacs pattern > very much followed those human interface guidelines which say to make > the most common actions easy. I say "historically" because most other "modern" GUI uses mouse-1 to BOTH set point (when not over a link) and follow a link (when over a link). So the change is aimed at simplifying the transition for users who come from other platforms. > > To me, the use of mouse-1 to follow links is odd, since I mainly use > it to set point, and I do that far more often than follow links. How often do you set point in a link ? > > I am not saying that you should not change the pattern, but that it is > worth remembering that the prime reason is more than historical > accident. We should remember that, but it is not necessary to mention it in this context. -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk