From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Key binding M-g should really be goto-line Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 12:27:32 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87y8cx4b3e.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1110371136 29028 80.91.229.2 (9 Mar 2005 12:25:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 12:25:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juri Linkov , emacs-devel@gnu.org, "Jari Aalto+mail.emacs" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 09 13:25:35 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D90Eg-0004pK-Bk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 13:24:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D90TK-0003tk-JW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 07:39:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D8zm8-00025M-MK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 06:54:52 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D8zm6-00023U-45 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 06:54:50 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D8zm5-0001YS-16 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 06:54:49 -0500 Original-Received: from [212.88.64.25] (helo=mail-relay.sonofon.dk) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1D8zLy-0006bp-AH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 06:27:51 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 2789 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2005 11:27:27 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO kfs-l.imdomain.dk.cua.dk) (213.83.150.2) by 0 with SMTP; 9 Mar 2005 11:27:27 -0000 Original-To: David Kastrup In-Reply-To: (David Kastrup's message of "Wed, 09 Mar 2005 10:58:39 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:34369 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:34369 David Kastrup writes: > Juri Linkov writes: > >> 2. goto-line is not too frequent command to deserve the sole >> M-g key. There are many other goto-related commands that could >> share the same mnemonics and have the common M-g prefix key. > > Forget it. No precedence, Huh? M-g was a prefix key before the change... > no previous desire, not fitting the feature > freeze. Is this a plot to distract people from releasing? IMO, it is a reasonable opportunity to DTRT before locking M-g down as a single command-key only. > C-x ` completely sucks as a keybinding on many international > keyboards. We need a new keybinding alternative at some point of > time. But M-g is clean out, in my opinion. Really. Why? I think it is excellent. Good mnemonic. > My proposal for an C-x ` alternative would be C-x ? which appears to > be free at the moment. ? is a frequent character in all languages I > know, and so it should be more accessible than ` on most keyboards. That is C-x S-? on my keyboard which is still cumbersome for something you type very frequently. M-g-n (hold M while pressing g + n) is just so much better, and allows you to go back as well M-g-p ... And it is also easy to repeat M-g-n-g-n-g-p (ups, got one too far). -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk