From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Joakim Verona Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Fixing report-emacs-bug Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 17:16:48 +0200 Message-ID: References: <66D10997-3675-4D74-9DD3-340D2DD69871@gmail.com> <3DAFCD49-E4A8-45EF-AFAB-81096D3FD29B@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1120490753 21384 80.91.229.2 (4 Jul 2005 15:25:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 15:25:53 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 04 17:25:50 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DpSp2-0000vF-KQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 17:25:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DpSqF-0000HV-Kt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 11:26:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DpSoY-0008HT-71 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 11:24:54 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DpSoU-0008FZ-Qw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 11:24:52 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DpSoU-000896-7h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 11:24:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA:16) (Exim 4.34) id 1DpSoC-0006B5-SR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 11:24:33 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DpShS-0008HK-DW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 17:17:34 +0200 Original-Received: from ua-83-227-131-3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se ([83.227.131.3]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 17:17:34 +0200 Original-Received: from joakim by ua-83-227-131-3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 17:17:34 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 48 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ua-83-227-131-3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:dKDJdHmDMkEmmoL8lZZpBoHe3+E= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:40339 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:40339 Just an idea: Maybe a fallback method for report-emacs-bug could be implemented that uses the emacs url library. If mailing doesnt work, emacs could try posting the bug report through a web form. The benefit would be that as long as the emacs user has a working internet connection, the bug-report would with a high degree of reliability be delivered to the web server. The web server could then mail the report as usual to emacs bugs. The drawback would be that there would have to be a webserver running a mailer script, that would have to be high uptime, and maybe could be abused. "Richard M. Stallman" writes: > So the desired behavior would probably be that sendmail gives a > warning to stderr when it is called, right? > > sendmail.el could be programmed to check for this. > > If so, would Emacs actually pick that up (at the right point in time)? > I suppose not, since sendmail is only called when the e-mail is to be > sent, right? > > That is true, but it may not be as bad as you think. > > But I think what we could do is have sendmail.el issue a 'sendmail - > q' command, which flushes the mail queue if the mail system is > running. If not, you get this: > > That would work too. > > However, I am wondering if there is some confusion. > If Postfix is running, why doesn't sendmail.el send out > mail thru Postfix? -- Joakim Verona www.verona.se