From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: smtp crap Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2011 15:47:55 +0200 Message-ID: References: <8739f4kzp3.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87ipo0p1bc.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <58C87CB9F44943A7BBE78F2D6B62A850@us.oracle.com> <83botsf06d.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1318081707 8126 80.91.229.12 (8 Oct 2011 13:48:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 13:48:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, miles@gnu.org, ding@gnus.org, Drew Adams , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 08 15:48:18 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RCXGD-0003R9-NW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 15:48:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38869 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RCXGD-0002Bd-6I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 09:48:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:60968) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RCXGA-0002BS-Pq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 09:48:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RCXG9-0008Jz-Tl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 09:48:14 -0400 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:57043) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RCXG8-0008IT-3M; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 09:48:12 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RCXFu-00020R-F1; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 15:47:58 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83botsf06d.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 08 Oct 2011 08:48:58 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.90 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAD1BMVEX4zjp1NxbfiifqoSzN byOhdRP2AAACUUlEQVQ4jUWUjWHrIAyE1eABgs0ADmIAghiAH+0/0zuB++qkccpn6aQThLwPGjUl Dao6dHa7c1U6csikSlTaOzUhqk2O2x2EVSFXbKEcrVI+7nHkcuBhbSRC0kNISFV0RGWnpF2nZBHc /18jJgNhihTtviesBbzGA5TJjaI+SIn7eV5Ah1CJ1e7CCIKQ3QBYXLEsKnol9cg1F0DGHjfwrQ5o ph0x0aoYGBldjvUNgQAmN/BvvA1AvwMEaKT13uAVLWuMG3gorirJufQAq0q9XwEGSozVPw0i5woQ AJKIp/vYETaRESN8iQN/xbIagEkAbOv1xIdgXI9GQCexoJdywYT65TRMIyGAufQYPv4NFfnOb0zJ AOxiqZD0jabLTpxYBPKdUKgo2p8ySzMQETE0GPh6XI2IOCeHGmiNZpYNsDXoKj/Wj01Q+XzA66Z6 Q4WcLBN5Vh0GPDaGszBaoE9G4x8Dob+dq/CmLA2FGMsKQSvIbzswPM4K23L3V3/VPzDQelxlueYg jMEsAG/nA+xy69PHFB5wps9alw1gPsbAJaHYcVulT8SJkbnCtUP6wjmhSRtcrOoEIHg/PpIpPxEX PBYXUzfx74nm8gIBYDAm0HeD89V4gXTJUk+6yZS2I+qF0zSwm3RHBLc9pGrnqXzs8eX8WVYvGWdG XLZafcALIK0Iocgo7zVs181keEXAYZwKDKx4WGPnyYclDXft+MOeHtq4A8BFj5GBMxB/gvWFjbwB vgc0R5jSAukXmMxNjB8QbCkAl6r+gRdT+fHZQEzin/V/N4Gl3gh5z60AAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: 23 Skidoo's _Urban Gamelan_: "Fire" X-MailScanner-ID: 1RCXFu-00020R-F1 MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1318686478.52595@jWBN8L+ay4jMMRQ97dca0Q X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.224.195 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:144742 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:80242 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Chong and Lars, any objections to changing the default value of > send-mail-function to mailclient-send-it for MS-Windows only? I don't think `mailclient-send-it' is a very satisfactory solution for sending email. It pops up a different mailer, and the user has to take actions there, too, to actually send the mail. And it doesn't support MIME, so you can't add attachments, and so on. mailclient makes Emacs into a second-rate mail client, which seems unfortunate as a default. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/