From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Network security manager Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 20:48:37 +0100 Message-ID: References: <85a93pj1n5.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <87d28kv9n6.fsf@gmx.us> <87zjbouwd3.fsf@Rainer.invalid> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1416340171 17882 80.91.229.3 (18 Nov 2014 19:49:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 19:49:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Achim Gratz Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 18 20:49:26 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XqomE-0002MA-2g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 20:49:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55062 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqomD-0002Bl-Ox for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 14:49:25 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46095) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xqolp-00023R-PT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 14:49:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xqolk-0007ht-Hc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 14:49:01 -0500 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:33946) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xqolk-0007hQ-Be for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 14:48:56 -0500 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1XqolS-0004TX-7g; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 20:48:38 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAD1BMVEUeDxJDJCasqbQFAwZn VFmHfdPkAAACV0lEQVQ4jVWUgZXjIAxEhXEBYKuAmFAAXigAEfVf040gye7x4ofhIwGjcaha20WV VTXiUT+nKM6BxnfDOKrE4Cn917K+O6U0vsM5Zc/4gOdt4wSc54utRaosr3OBllkxywCJrjFiCHpY FhaNc4MxlB4uc4y9pXwkjUKWMegOUD1O+ygjHxexVM5NHDuhUL1LsVfd0rlrqLI1T6QvQnN8dE8/ 6VREyMbVSXzRujB0aHoO0urbRYNlATXgYogu1tqecahOoAmnIWdLAvozHMF5ANYswS0ZCWM3e7xA 8kAtxRUx1bfI/9W1WVabfwMVXlXhJB8wIKAOfa/ndLFKqADQM9cf/WTK2c5iALJLace3gllFPFTJ Q0MvbZsFylmS39R5RDw4x1D2DTsNRSmkNhdqIboq/eAwbAXNwt3ME6nALpDt0AO5wTqf5imXi92d 7uNFkmTHvMJp2PmqDdoF/PbO+fDeqYkccEFd9Qj7VUeKPnKNLDYxFpCAQqXeHdM0bJJg3oVsKIPq Gfwe1GyYLgCTTQoumE8qtagJI+Zunt02lWKBC5f0yInYBaZYlsga4V5ZvuDX95T2kcWXBcL4A5CK F9BcscW0+hhWwUevpRno1BgYC7aDnrc+IPOeNjPLvoPHfjelV70zJG25DJGo93Xk2GnvAPU4q4N8 xTx1P0k2iXwacGe9yaGaR4/3o8IZ+NitHqhAgXkjSiCl43s5LgaAyU/a5f0HcNpC7vo2cdiu9Tkg d6Tl6miSrdXQOZ7vyDDVHTK9zxpCXZXjQPXTimX/juofgKjwC/4B3eGbGthq5EQAAAAASUVORK5C YII= X-Now-Playing: Talking Heads's _The Name Of This Band Is Talking Heads (Disc 1: 1977-1979)_: "A Clean Break (Let's Work)" X-Hashcash: 1:23:141118:stromeko@nexgo.de::ZrJMylWzvGxlEGtJ:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000T7k5 X-Hashcash: 1:23:141118:emacs-devel@gnu.org::RfX0JlHPVkvmYoH/:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000017AG/ In-Reply-To: <87zjbouwd3.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (Achim Gratz's message of "Tue, 18 Nov 2014 20:44:40 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/24.4.51 (gnu/linux) X-MailScanner-ID: 1XqolS-0004TX-7g MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1416944918.65718@/LoVB6tIXfliomzuCecEmQ X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.224.195 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:177644 Archived-At: Achim Gratz writes: > Huh? No ISP I know of lets you use their SMTP servers without > authentication if you're on dialup or anything else with dynamic IP > anymore. POP before SMTP whitelisting has been falling out of favor=85 It's common for the ISPs here to use an SMTP submit port setup (with TLS) that only accepts messages from within their network. And without authentication.=20=20 --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no