From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Pavel@Janik.cz (Pavel =?iso-8859-2?q?Jan=EDk?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] Changes to emacs/lisp/ChangeLog Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 19:09:06 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200203311640.g2VGeFw10733@aztec.santafe.edu> <200204012321.g31NLLP11397@aztec.santafe.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1017774749 8040 127.0.0.1 (2 Apr 2002 19:12:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 19:12:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16sThl-00025Y-00 for ; Tue, 02 Apr 2002 21:12:29 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16sTtX-00029q-00 for ; Tue, 02 Apr 2002 21:24:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16sThS-0003hY-00; Tue, 02 Apr 2002 14:12:10 -0500 Original-Received: from p0503.as-l043.contactel.cz ([194.108.243.249] helo=SnowWhite.SuSE.cz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16sTgR-0003bN-00; Tue, 02 Apr 2002 14:11:07 -0500 Original-Received: by SnowWhite.SuSE.cz (PJ, from userid 500) id 2E0F2183D2; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 21:13:45 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never X-Face: $"d&^B_IKlTHX!y2d,3;grhwjOBqOli]LV`6d]58%5'x/kBd7.MO&n3bJ@Zkf&RfBu|^qL+ ?/Re{MpTqanXS2'~Qp'J2p^M7uM:zp[1Xq#{|C!*'&NvCC[9!|=>#qHqIhroq_S"MH8nSH+d^9*BF: iHiAs(t(~b#1.{w.d[=Z In-Reply-To: <200204012321.g31NLLP11397@aztec.santafe.edu> (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon, 1 Apr 2002 16:21:21 -0700 (MST)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090006 (Oort Gnus v0.06) Emacs/21.2.50 (i386-suse-linux-gnu) Original-Lines: 34 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:2321 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:2321 From: Richard Stallman Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 16:21:21 -0700 (MST) > It might be a good idea to define play-sound so that it always fails > when sound support is not included. That could be done in C or Lisp. > It is easy either way. Want to do it? I think that Eli's idea of renaming play-sound (now in C) to play-sound-internal and just adding (unless (fboundp 'play-sound-internal) (error "This Emacs binary lacks sound support.")) at the beginning of real play-sound (which can be in Lisp after that) is also good solution. What do you think? > I can do that if you agree with this. I will also add --with[out]-= sound to > configure. >=20 > Is there a real practical benefit in having those options? I don't > see it. Why bother? To test the above implementation? ;-) No, it does not have practical benefit except for maniacs who are trying to make Emacs smaller. How do you compile Emacs without sound support on the computer which has soundcard.h and similar files? Yes, it is detail, but it will take approx. 5 minutes of my time. --=20 Pavel Jan=EDk Use uniform input formats. -- The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plaugh= er)