From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unwarranted invocation of starttls Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 20:39:27 +0100 Message-ID: References: <83aa67s5zo.fsf@gnu.org> <834nwfs0k2.fsf@gnu.org> <83zke4po98.fsf@gnu.org> <87y5tn7mnx.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325705996 7573 80.91.229.12 (4 Jan 2012 19:39:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 19:39:56 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 04 20:39:53 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RiWgi-0005vc-LJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 20:39:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59621 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiWgf-0008OE-23 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 14:39:49 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:60874) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiWgb-0008Cn-7A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 14:39:46 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiWgZ-0004Y4-W6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 14:39:45 -0500 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:55582) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiWgZ-0004XO-RA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 14:39:43 -0500 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RiWgM-0001oZ-Nw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 20:39:30 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87y5tn7mnx.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Wed, 04 Jan 2012 06:05:38 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.92 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAMFBMVEUnISOsoKXcZ6mXgYz+ /v6ZcofcZqjeydR3WGisao/fZaoTDg9WRk0+NDi9YZSwlKOQj4lWAAACWElEQVQ4jc2UMWvcMBTH VUrAYAsqbrm5QwKZcogDQ5It0A9gDo4m8w0dy5GDTBfMwWtP7p5+gAyZtBQCsuBCKIhGAsERMNha bmqXQNcureQ2bVKSsdD/YMT7+b3/k58stPeI0NHZg9pDm/8v+PzmBE7g3cbR643J5C64+al/Zv79 IW168JV2KO0QQnvkj755QEjaXJK/5ME6If1Y5A8C2Bbo+E6hTgrvx22pqRAf7oYBXo59RifbNyi5 zUgbAMYC6KV+sSxuwY7wCdqXWr9gSpu1HR/rBriNB0OrPDg8TuEK+PSYdIsnnTzfSphGLciHcFXF 5oI845fdp0YLXQF768Gu1gscIwUak+X1LhUCLfUnDwpXWpxwqUvIaa4IFvElC8BqZy2Ok0UCqgtq WgoOxrd76PIhi2NxPpUfHTSqiH33KoAZpQdCiMaqApUusqhyAME8TvQOF1w1B07iesEThvMiACRQ zWPpANdl09T8XEepDeb73AlZl6LBVw7XNZbLqogD4KXjuJbFwtk+lnNbRlaIAHA0Lw0q2fVWrRru EJc4bgHM5muFQ0b5l7W2UoLmLpgDzCPmTKyNFYrZWlTaRAE44xImffsMiQhgKrVXKGVQhQAZnhg/ O2Dh4XC7DwxWwQKVPjLrD0BRj8MnkT5aaREmOsiyFHJ/GHQA4OeRIIsGkGUZTYGGUxJKMQVzjtB1 f5ZRSnPaGQCYFmhdC2xzGjSkhPYBktbcKc0a3YKc9vwJ/+Xx5eZWq5vV6vn6KixfeTAajc5Gp2en 93+cMXoxuafx79vnsWvpBwPyQ/fzOFMwAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Various's _Disco Discharge: Pink Pounders (1)_: "Yvonne Kay - I've Got The Music In Me (Original 12" energy mix)" X-MailScanner-ID: 1RiWgM-0001oZ-Nw MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1326310771.04656@q0DwAw7PSUG4TDBQKiwIZA X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.224.195 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147287 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > It can work, with a lot of fiddling, but is unreliable and causes many > issues that are hard to replicate, timeouts especially. I don't know of > anyone happily using it on W32 and think disabling it on W32 is a good > choice. If it can work, isn't there a way to make it work reliably? Where does it fail, usually? But if this is the case, I can add a test like (memq system-type '(windows-nt ms-dos)) to `starttls-available-p'... Opinions? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/