From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Declaring cl.el obsolete Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 10:44:34 +0200 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="12320"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 23 10:45:26 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hTjLk-0002wg-VW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 May 2019 10:45:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59972 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hTjLj-0006XS-RJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 May 2019 04:45:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52597) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hTjL9-0006XK-W5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 May 2019 04:44:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hTjL8-0006wn-VA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 May 2019 04:44:43 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:51282) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hTjL8-0006sk-PR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 May 2019 04:44:42 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=stories) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hTjL1-00010o-4K; Thu, 23 May 2019 10:44:37 +0200 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAGFBMVEUcCg7s1MYPAwccDxeK SzZEJya9gV4YBwujpe29AAACU0lEQVQ4jXXTUW/bIBAAYEtVlOeTEn4ATtfXDkr6Oit3PK8D0tci Y56jVhV/fwfY0yatZymS/QWOO5+Hx+GLYNiXUvbtZl/+guDCLngKP/niMC64LuIILzAJ8YZkkZJF pA5whAmihTfk+EEe7QYLRF6xwRXtssIBYozXCjldGHAFAYJFRM5BvP8TEX1VwRq3YeA6vjDZYjRO G++kPMsHLvYjlNLhHj3yYaVkY/g0GzxhzjanX+OvBne0gc81kvvWoAx6vwI2QDrLCjdDrw3epV3B Nii3nnyUG+DSoegGWsrcc+Cxwyftax1aqSya2NST78wrg9Za1a1SThOqBia83nQNFbBmQMu7yruh BN/AofM+1/7OJqiHx1ZHhZDcNQPZZBKSeqinCuWjQphPOTNcnzA0+Ow5zHXWeKB8WHhUOujnu7rC z9ovPh9SCFr3Fc99q4s2aLNIPGTUoSXXgbThQsQcPKZ6qpvpYEhfI2S4nNGmcRjkaU3uSb+AyICB 26V1HYRy02qMfDtB5jkSXEiH96LkC4+jAA7+iYm2FWqEQ4Q1BKQLQ5sq+Z036Y+jmGBxDVjuAdIG eQIyRtdBHIYJ4LKlSFaQY6jDuQM4So9rCmLgrepnt4OlvqC2RmSXuFkrXE786qb62GZ09XmFMuyO p2RTgxAzOfkHYPZ24S9RwGITKan0Yytwx/88M0CwB8/9UJKBV9x2wK+HYszBC595ydihfMQEs+Gj mQCG50SNz2uvTpgpQCLjYPHo9Kg6lBHRA/cduchWxdrd/3ya7bg9hv0/8BschvfHdDgUMwAAAABJ RU5ErkJggg== In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 22 May 2019 23:26:39 -0400") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 80.91.231.51 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:236925 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > So I think Emacs-27 is a good time to declare it officially obsolete > (and hence move it to the lisp/obsolete directory). I think there's a probably a gazillion out-of-tree packages out there with (require 'cl), so actually removing cl at some point would break a lot of stuff... and without much of a technical reason, I think? So I'm against declaring it obsolete. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no