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From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm)
Cc: Eric Hanchrow <offby1@blarg.net>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [mange@freemail.hu: grep-tree doesn't shell-quote-argument]
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:59:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3ejzu9bzz.fsf@kfs-l.imdomain.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4445033A.2030002@student.lu.se> (Lennart Borgman's message of "Tue, 18 Apr 2006 17:18:18 +0200")


Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> Btw, isn't it confusing that we have no less than 3 different
> commands (find-grep-dired, grep-find, and grep-tree) to do
> the same job?

Why?  They do it differently and each serves a different audience.

Eric Hanchrow wrote:
> Yes.	I've been using Emacs for 20 years, more or less, and only knew
> about grep-find until just now :-|

So what?

Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se> writes:

> Too me it seems like merging them into one command could possibly save
> a lot of time for many people.

Huh?

Have you actually looked at them and what they do?

Command           Input             Output
----------------------------------------------------------------------
grep            Shell Command           List of matching lines
                grep ...

grep-find       Shell Command           List of matching lines
                find ... | grep ...     (recurses directories)

grep-tree       Regexp, Files, Dir      List of matching lines
                                        (recurses directorires)

find-grep-dired Dir, Regexp             List of matching FILES
                                        (recurses directorires)
                                        


So grep and grep-find are similar in the sense that they both
prompts the user for a SHELL COMMAND -- which is flexible but
low-level (IMO).

Like grep-find, grep-tree recurses directories listing matching lines,
but the interface it completely different, as grep-tree prompts
individually for regexp, files, and starting directory (with normal
directory name completion).  It also remembers your previous choice
for each parameter, so you can quickly repeat a previous search
starting in a different directory.  IMO, grep-tree is much more user
friendly than grep and grep-find (I use grep-tree all the time), 
while others obviously prefer the power of grep and grep-find.

find-grep-dired is completely different in the sense that it
doesn't list the matches, but rather presents a dired buffer
which lists the files which matches the regexp.


So they all serve a different purpose, and I don't see any way to
merge them ...or how doing so can "save a lot of time for many people".


-- 
Kim F. Storm <storm@cua.dk> http://www.cua.dk

  reply	other threads:[~2006-04-19  8:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-18 12:57 [mange@freemail.hu: grep-tree doesn't shell-quote-argument] Richard Stallman
2006-04-18 14:02 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-18 14:44   ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-18 15:11     ` Eric Hanchrow
2006-04-18 15:18       ` Lennart Borgman
2006-04-19  8:59         ` Kim F. Storm [this message]
2006-04-19  9:15           ` Romain Francoise
2006-04-19  9:16           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-19 11:41             ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-19 12:23               ` David Kastrup
2006-04-19 12:51                 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-19 13:09                   ` David Kastrup
2006-04-19 21:13                     ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-19 13:14                 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-19 13:28                   ` David Kastrup
2006-04-19 13:58                     ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-19 14:09                       ` David Kastrup
2006-04-19 14:58                         ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-19 15:10                           ` David Kastrup
2006-04-19 16:59                           ` Kevin Rodgers
2006-04-19 17:08                             ` David Kastrup
2006-04-19 14:52                     ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-19 15:03                       ` David Kastrup
2006-04-19 18:10                   ` Bill Wohler
2006-04-19 18:15                     ` Drew Adams
2006-04-19 18:23                     ` David Kastrup
2006-04-19 18:34                       ` Bill Wohler
2006-04-19 21:13                 ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-19 12:49               ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-18 15:27     ` Romain Francoise
2006-04-19  4:17     ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-19  8:57       ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-19 21:12         ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-20  9:53           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-21  8:27           ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-21 14:47             ` Magnus Henoch
2006-04-21 17:22               ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-21 20:04                 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-21 20:40                   ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-21 21:35                     ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-22 12:03             ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-22 12:41               ` David Kastrup
2006-04-23 16:06                 ` Bill Wohler
2006-04-23 16:19                 ` Bill Wohler
2006-04-22 23:02               ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-23 21:58                 ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-23 22:06                   ` David Kastrup
2006-04-24 11:51                     ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-24 12:04                       ` David Kastrup
2006-04-25 16:46                         ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-24 12:10                       ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-24 22:46                         ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-25 16:47                         ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-24 11:05                   ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-24 11:11                     ` Miles Bader
2006-04-24 11:24                       ` David Kastrup
2006-04-24 11:31                         ` Miles Bader
2006-04-24 11:43                           ` David Kastrup
2006-04-24 11:52                             ` Miles Bader
2006-04-24 17:52                     ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-24 18:16                       ` David Kastrup
2006-04-24 20:38                         ` Chong Yidong
2006-04-25 16:48                         ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-26  8:27                           ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-27  4:36                             ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-25  9:06                   ` Kim F. Storm
2006-04-29  3:50                     ` Richard Stallman

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