From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tom Tromey Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Package Management Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:55:08 -0600 Message-ID: References: <485b0c380808011427n4d3144eey3f8daf3abac83bf4@mail.gmail.com> <87d45vzt4j.fsf@hagelb.org> Reply-To: Tom Tromey NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1253041013 8431 80.91.229.12 (15 Sep 2009 18:56:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:56:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Phil Hagelberg , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 15 20:56:45 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MndCn-0001BD-CX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:56:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46440 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MndCm-0007fX-Td for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:56:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MndBQ-0007Ff-0v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:55:20 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MndBL-0007DN-8M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:55:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50728 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MndBL-0007DH-32 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:55:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:10125) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MndBI-0006C7-Qu; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:55:13 -0400 Original-Received: from int-mx08.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx08.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.21]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n8FItAtX014703; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:55:11 -0400 Original-Received: from ns3.rdu.redhat.com (ns3.rdu.redhat.com [10.11.255.199]) by int-mx08.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n8FItAJC003695; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:55:10 -0400 Original-Received: from opsy.redhat.com (ovpn01.gateway.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.9.1]) by ns3.rdu.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n8FIt8xO023082; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:55:09 -0400 Original-Received: by opsy.redhat.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 7F0DB378198; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:55:08 -0600 (MDT) X-Attribution: Tom In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:40:39 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 10.5.11.21 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:115369 Archived-At: >>>>> "RMS" == Richard Stallman writes: RMS> Supporting the latest Gnus on old versions of Emacs already RMS> complicates things. If Emacs does not come with a copy of Gnus, we RMS> will also be asked to support running an old Gnus in a new Emacs, RMS> which will square the difficulty. package.el only lets users install the latest version of a package that is available in the package archive. Older versions are not displayed in the package menu. Of course, a user might upgrade Emacs but not upgrade existing packages. And, this may cause something to stop working. I did not see a way to solve this problem, and anyhow it is not any worse than the currently existing situation with 3rd party .el libraries. Tom