From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: James Cloos Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 06:23:32 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87d3w2ncqs.fsf_-_@lola.goethe.zz> <87iq5py7xk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <83bpbglg8z.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1276340412 4256 80.91.229.12 (12 Jun 2010 11:00:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 11:00:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 12 13:00:10 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ONORc-0004WY-Jr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 13:00:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47263 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ONORb-00077N-WC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 07:00:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=46218 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ONORR-0006GD-8Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 06:59:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ONOEb-0003Ap-Ms for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 06:46:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eagle.jhcloos.com ([207.210.242.212]:35309) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ONOEa-0003AO-Et; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 06:46:40 -0400 Original-Received: by eagle.jhcloos.com (Postfix, from userid 10) id 1A452400C5; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:46:15 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jhcloos.com; s=eagle; t=1276339599; bh=91n61JthGkmmFpo6AaOSrqyJ49Sckky/5KRVlwPhB24=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ilXp+v1lApyLIlMGYUHqPVSG51q2LFoRgE7+ygIPCnDAM70aIeAI2VZsk1kLZ9Aj4 pN5IP/14M1z7Wj969novRlefhEqcgrViZxoBQJLhXLgWlv6na/+dLAgM+CiqEus3wo WJuYYksJUKJb7KQQkqFxy5c62XZYhIgEVTeC2dEA= Original-Received: from carbon.jhcloos.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by carbon.jhcloos.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D991C3252; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:23:32 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <83bpbglg8z.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 12 Jun 2010 13:03:40 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABAAAAAQCAYAAAAf8/9hAAAABHNCSVQICAgIfAhkiAAAAI1J REFUOE+lU9ESgCAIg64P1y+ngUdxhl5H8wFbbM0OmUiEhKkCYaZThXCo6KE5sCbA1DDX3genvO4d eBQgEMaM5qy6uWk4SfBYfdu9jvBN9nSVDOKRtwb+I3epboOsOX5pZbJNsBJFvmQQ05YMfieIBnYX FK2N6dOawd97r/e8RjkTLzmMsiVgrAoEugtviCM3v2WzjgAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== Copyright: Copyright 2009 James Cloos OpenPGP: ED7DAEA6; url=http://jhcloos.com/public_key/0xED7DAEA6.asc OpenPGP-Fingerprint: E9E9 F828 61A4 6EA9 0F2B 63E7 997A 9F17 ED7D AEA6 Original-Lines: 14 X-Hashcash: 1:30:100612:eliz@gnu.org::4H24nzZ9d3KpXCHU:000020Z5T X-Hashcash: 1:30:100612:cyd@stupidchicken.com::oM1736F+IrfUvrhC:000000000000000000000000000000000000000LaQH5 X-Hashcash: 1:30:100612:emacs-devel@gnu.org::diDTvNIBRVNzTrMC:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000C7p62 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:125807 Archived-At: >>>>> "EZ" == Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Oh, and my personal preference, as a l2r reader who occasionally deals >> with r2l text, is for both C-f/C-b and LEFT/RIGHT to *always* move in >> logical order. EZ> That's what Emacs does now. Both C-f/C-b and the arrows move in the EZ> logical order. There's no visual-order movement in Emacs (yet). Yes. My point was that I like the current behavior. -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6