From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: finger-pointer curser as default for mouse-face text Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 11:10:59 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1098436451 14237 80.91.229.6 (22 Oct 2004 09:14:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:14:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , Drew Adams , Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 22 11:13:59 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CKvUk-0006PO-00 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 11:13:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CKvcE-0006Vw-OT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 05:21:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CKvZx-0004zP-Rn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 05:19:22 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CKvZw-0004y4-0P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 05:19:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CKvZv-0004xZ-Fw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 05:19:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [212.88.64.25] (helo=mail-relay.sonofon.dk) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CKvRq-00010l-J7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 05:10:58 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 21450 invoked from network); 22 Oct 2004 09:10:57 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO kfs-l.imdomain.dk.cua.dk) (213.83.150.2) by 0 with SMTP; 22 Oct 2004 09:10:57 -0000 Original-To: David Kastrup In-Reply-To: (David Kastrup's message of "Fri, 22 Oct 2004 00:09:31 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:28721 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:28721 David Kastrup writes: > I am not claiming that this is the ultimate reason or whatever, I am > just pointing out that in this case it would be problematic. My mouse-1 patch only sets in with links that have mouse-face. Why do preview-latex images need to have mouse-face property ? Images can have mouse-2 bindings even without that. > > In addition, we have to be aware that clickable fields are usually > implemented with keymaps. And that means that there is no way to > magically change all buttons in all applications: it is a convention > rather than an API. If we want to change to a different convention, > we first need to define an API where the current convention is > accessible to outside packages, then wait for a few releases with the > old convention in place, and then try changing the default and weather > the inconsistency storm from packages that have not yet adhered to the > API telling it what mouse buttons to use. If mouse-1 has a non-standard binding on a link, my patch obeys that binding. -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk