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From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm)
Cc: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: "What's This?" in Describe submenu
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 09:58:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3d5o62yiy.fsf@kfs-l.imdomain.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1E6zpF-0008Di-MQ@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard M. Stallman's message of "Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:06:05 -0400")

"Richard M. Stallman" <rms@gnu.org> writes:

>     What is the purpose of the "What's This?" entry in the Describe submenu
>     of the Help menu?  The only difference to the "Describe Key..." entry
>     beneath is that the latter is bound to `describe-key-1' which is
>     not defined anywhere.
>
> A discussion in November 2002, based on noting that Windows menus have
> a "What's This" feature, concluded that (present and former) Windows
> users would recognize the name "What's This" and know what to do with
> it.  So it would help them.
>
> I have never been a Windows user, so I can't judge for myself.
> Do those here with Windows experience agree that that menu item
> will be understood by many users?

In its current form, it does IN NO WAY resemble what a Windoze user
would expect from the "What's this" function.

When you click on the "What's this" function in Windoze (typically not
available as a menu item, but as a [?] icon), the cursor changes shape
to an arrow with a question mark, and then the user can (in principle)
click on anything in the application window to get help for that item
(typically an input field).  So it gives help for _visible_items_, not
key bindings!

If we want to keep the "What's this" menu item, then we should implement
it properly, and not provide something completely unrelated.

-- 
Kim F. Storm <storm@cua.dk> http://www.cua.dk

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-08-22  7:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-21  8:21 "What's This?" in Describe submenu martin rudalics
2005-08-21 17:26 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-21 17:59   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-21 21:22     ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-21 21:38       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-22  3:35         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-22  3:55           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-22  4:30           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-22 20:04             ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-22 23:39               ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-21 22:10       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-21 17:45 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-21 18:35 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-22  0:06 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-22  0:50   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-22  8:52     ` Lennart Borgman
2005-08-22  9:09     ` Lennart Borgman
2005-08-22 19:35     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-22 22:16       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-22 22:59       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-22  1:59   ` David Robinow
2005-08-22  3:38     ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-22  7:17     ` Jason Rumney
2005-08-22 10:43       ` David Kastrup
2005-08-22 19:35     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-22 23:15       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-22  7:58   ` Kim F. Storm [this message]
2005-08-22 16:37     ` Drew Adams
2005-08-23  1:29       ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-22 19:53     ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-22 20:15       ` Stefan Monnier
2005-08-23  3:42         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-23  0:08       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-23  3:47         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-23  4:23           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-23 14:40             ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-23 19:22             ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-23 20:55               ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-23  4:29           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-23  7:15             ` Jason Rumney
2005-08-23 14:37               ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-23  4:40           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-23 19:36             ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-23 20:56               ` Jason Rumney
2005-08-24  3:38                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-24 12:46                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-24 14:10                     ` David Robinow
2005-08-24 18:51                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-25 10:42                       ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-23  4:56           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-23 19:34             ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-23 19:56               ` Stefan Monnier
2005-08-23 23:05                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-24 10:33                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-23 22:02               ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-24  3:46                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-25  8:54                   ` Kim F. Storm
2005-08-25 18:05                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-23  1:29     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-22 16:23   ` Drew Adams
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-08-23 14:08 Drew Adams
2005-08-23 14:31 ` David Kastrup
2005-08-23 19:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-23 20:53   ` Jason Rumney
2005-08-24  3:39     ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-08-24  7:15       ` Jason Rumney

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