From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: undecided vs utf-8 Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 23:27:57 +0100 Organization: Programmerer Ingebrigtsen Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1288909706 32136 80.91.229.12 (4 Nov 2010 22:28:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 22:28:26 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 04 23:28:22 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PE8I9-0006tH-1a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Nov 2010 23:28:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57204 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PE8I8-0003YM-E4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Nov 2010 18:28:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=39701 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PE8I2-0003YF-Di for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Nov 2010 18:28:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PE8Hy-0001hQ-Bb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Nov 2010 18:28:14 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:58693) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PE8Hy-0001hL-0w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Nov 2010 18:28:10 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PE8Hw-0006mH-MU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Nov 2010 23:28:08 +0100 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.34.171.getinternet.no ([84.215.34.171]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 04 Nov 2010 23:28:08 +0100 Original-Received: from larsi by cm-84.215.34.171.getinternet.no with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 04 Nov 2010 23:28:08 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 20 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cm-84.215.34.171.getinternet.no Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAMFBMVEWEGSLu7ew0BRGPLjKZ e32onpxjCB2xr7VsDh7IxccDAAX////+//6Rj5aIUU7+/v1BjlU6AAAB8UlEQVQ4ja3SwWvaUBzA 8UfdQXoYCC09BC8ZCyWHEZIhnsKGke7iRnEioTiGBSneCg2eBDEg7+RNhoSykkMov0Ohh1HkN8gf sJOghB3cxvS6gGcPWdKqe4oeBv1CcnifkAc/fgSnnItRs+gVzKInCIIZwcJ3Lzy5LfaLRs0b6oiX 1kG9YxF8qHd0fnQx9EoeusmfeyNtCYj77+o13ehib7+fSCS4f5A8GRolrYh3XY/DgIH7DmaYPB5x mF2BnvGpU8PLfsnCixVwp0FiiobeOU/U1n81/yIIcCNEPTLcdtey5nA3WutkAQPff+vPm2h+bgk/ 7JgkAjiNFjjmZPcPA0SqhkDT5YaaSTEAMeUeNEpNhbJwKjVFQaBqPt6QVmFHhOsWjel5qigs3KQB bgRqqlJ7rI4YsH8DHDqtj0r8qfKyzgBUeKBOq0LjhDzJsSALIDu0chaCugKODWDzos2HsZfDFQ/L VkBYgJNiQQT6S3yAF/kqA2lxJxoW37TlU4WBQaYpS2oVDsOBmGN2upK5K2gyPJcahCgMDEg78+z1 GzgLz6V4iwVT0Y5f2ZSnJCzHgJoyfSKWhXQspmYZmGTK7bEpy77yPuMXSkvYtiW92lqLvfr/FX0M cLfA173P3zaBq40n+kYofMhuBMQv3LbLLfwLN2nMwkzvJGgAAAAASUVORK5CYII= Mail-Copies-To: never X-Now-Playing: Art Ensemble of Chicago's _Live in Paris (1)_: "Oh, Strange (Part One)" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:+dpMnRILTHCuAB1FcdMgeHOz8tc= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:132378 Archived-At: When using erc, it decodes iso-8859-1 fine with the default `undecided' into encoding. However, any utf-8 strings are, sort of, just translated into the same coding system: (decode-coding-string "u-te-\303\246ff \303\245tte" 'undecided) => "u-te-æff Ã¥tte" (decode-coding-string "u-te-\303\246ff \303\245tte" 'utf-8) => "u-te-æff åtte" So, uhm... Is this meant to be this way? I know that guessing the first thing is, well, correct, sort of -- it's valid iso-8859-1, although very strange. But it's also valid utf-8. Shouldn't `decode-coding-string' prefer utf-8 if it's actually valid? If it's valid utf-8, then it's quite likely that it's meant to be utf-8, even though other coding systems are also possible. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen