From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Making `interactive' conditional Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 20:02:43 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87mvszdp6b.fsf@gnus.org> <8737u9kv6f.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87fuy7hdc6.fsf_-_@wanadoo.es> <87bn8vh8q4.fsf@wanadoo.es> <4002fc97-5629-4367-8b8f-48b659fefdce@default> <87y4blbnbx.fsf@wanadoo.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1453230218 21144 80.91.229.3 (19 Jan 2016 19:03:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 19:03:38 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 19 20:03:27 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aLbYs-00019L-DH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 20:03:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38857 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aLbYr-0006W5-QB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 14:03:25 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39942) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aLbYf-0006Vs-NE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 14:03:14 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aLbYZ-0006mi-9g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 14:03:13 -0500 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:35228) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aLbYZ-0006mF-3B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 14:03:07 -0500 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=stories) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aLbYC-0006oR-4r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 20:02:44 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAMFBMVEX39vz19PoHAwP9/f6C fHsCAADi4OIhGhoKBgb+/v/x8PISDQ0PCwoNCQj////6+f1cfLp6AAAB3ElEQVQ4jZ3UP2vbQBQA 8DPdMkTW6vHAVNCpeHKWLqaGUDIENHUNCnRooSRxoMmS6UGjD+DF1GAM9dChFFo4Zc1iaY7BOrDH LBcXfYDru5PvLJzz0jfIcD/eH92dTEjRF64g3k5oD4R4dEJfxS4YuHq0Wi2VsGWESFm0Xc2JJ3Gu iY3x/hrqnmyLxRfGWMLuOMaRhWKgIeEsA4wjWwo7LNX6vPcHKA0sFCVk/CG6pJTajDpWEssk47OH zjUNIN6GGcw7M4DYNtd7tcw4xL9O1Fj5BsQa7kc4wWZcVUkscJ1fjBjjPDXwQgNWv704mVZBlyph lKaVUp7KeAII8rfjqxS2eiBAfjh+l1SmKkG9wafoNOO57aEP4wlu6Muzzmk3rryHOr7FDaXv4dXn yyC2UJd4tq8DGqqgNJ4a8OuEkD0aNMNmGAYwZx8N+H7Nb4Qm6FcLmOBPmgaOAwNkRUitAbQZHt+d Y8YGJKY0cHcBuj/xAHMLxFuRPZakadpL8nTKNhlSrmp4e9jvnn4aUDdU/i1BhwG1I/033bOOiSog PfsQ1hCp+O4AdZ1/uDIcX5Q+KPFh4obHKGp8czZXPYbDIW71FhQH5ouyUP4M9eJ+tdSzcUT5f+CE nRn/B/8AcJpMcWL3WmEAAAAASUVORK5CYII= In-Reply-To: (John Wiegley's message of "Tue, 19 Jan 2016 10:39:27 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-MailScanner-ID: 1aLbYC-0006oR-4r MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1453834964.62369@RE9KS8/0GWxQ9Gv+DuHjoQ X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.224.195 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:198381 Archived-At: John Wiegley writes: >> Making changes and then seeing improvements in Emacs immediately would be a >> great motivating factor, I think, to get people to do this stuff. > > I didn't quite follow what this was suggesting... :) If you instrument diary.el, you (and everybody else who uses the trunk) who does `M-x diTAB' sees a usability improvement. I think that's a motivating factor to getting all this janitorial work done. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no