From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: It is time for a feature freeze (it is NOW or never). Date: 04 May 2004 23:18:52 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87eks0654s.fsf@sno.mundell.ukfsn.org> <87n06bp4ng.fsf@sno.mundell.ukfsn.org> <8765cwkejr.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <200404071157.UAA25094@etlken.m17n.org> <200404071312.WAA25268@etlken.m17n.org> <87zn9nqras.fsf@emacswiki.org> <87hdvux5uz.fsf@orebokech.com> <87lll6v514.fsf@orebokech.com> <200404100109.KAA03816@etlken.m17n.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1083713857 26802 80.91.224.253 (4 May 2004 23:37:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 23:37:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed May 05 01:37:30 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BL9Te-0000QG-00 for ; Wed, 05 May 2004 01:37:30 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BL9Td-0004VX-00 for ; Wed, 05 May 2004 01:37:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BL9SM-0005Ek-GN for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Tue, 04 May 2004 19:36:10 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BL9Ny-0003gU-El for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 May 2004 19:31:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BL9GJ-0001xU-2l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 May 2004 19:24:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.41.46.235] (helo=pfepa.post.tele.dk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BL9CV-00013g-E7; Tue, 04 May 2004 19:19:47 -0400 Original-Received: from kfs-l.imdomain.dk.cua.dk (0x503e2644.bynxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [80.62.38.68]) by pfepa.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id D3FDA47FE31; Wed, 5 May 2004 01:19:35 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: David Kastrup In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 33 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:22776 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:22776 David Kastrup writes: > Richard Stallman writes: > > > I think we may as well skip making another release from RC. The > > question is whether we should call the next release 21.4 or 22.0. > > > > There has been so much change that maybe the next release should be > > 22.0. > > So in order to avoid version overkill, I think that we would stay at > 21.x as long as we have "merely" extensive, but not fundamental > changes. Well, there are SOME fundamental changes from 21.3 to "this" release: ** Leim is now part of the Emacs distribution. ** The Emacs Lisp Reference Manual is now part of the distribution. ** The max size of buffers and integers has been doubled. ** GTK support Besides, a lot of external lisp packages are now included with emacs (tramp, ses, cua, ...) If you look at NEWS, 3500 lines have been added since 21.3. Compare this to 4800 lines describing the changes from 20.7 to 21.3 But I don't really case if we call this 21.4, 21.5, or 22.0 -- as long as we release something in 2004 !! -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk