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From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm)
Cc: guy@wyrdrune.com, Emacs Devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Some findings and suggestion about Emacs on w32
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:23:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3brer92ng.fsf@kfs-l.imdomain.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <00d901c4b900$9b774500$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> (Lennart Borgman's message of "Sat, 23 Oct 2004 15:01:26 +0200")

"Lennart Borgman" <lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se> writes:

> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kim F. Storm" <storm@cua.dk>
>
> : Once you have started emacs (from the start menu), what business do
> : you have outside emacs (i.e. in Windoze land)?
>
> Of course you have a point there, but why not have the freedom of working
> different ways? Does not that make the learning curve less steep? I have
> seen people hesitating to begin using Emacs just because there is too much
> to learn to begin with. If we want people to use Emacs I think we should
> make it as easy as possible to begin. They will learn more after a while.

I don't understand.  How does gnuclient make emacs easier to learn ?

I definitely think GNU Emacs should be on the start menu -- 

If emacs/gnuclient is included, your installer may offer to make file
associations in the registry for e.g. *.el *.c *.h.

>
> Another trouble with this menu entry: What will happen if you start Emacs a
> second time from that Start menu entry?

You get a second instance of emacs -- that's perfectly legal and may be useful
if you need a separate thread for some things (like gnus).

There is a problem if you start the server in .emacs; does the first
or second instance run the server ?  I don't know if there is a
generic answer to that question.

> BTW the name of the entry is "GNU Emacs". I thought that just "Emacs" was
> preferred?

Right -- but mentioning GNU explicitly on the windoze start menu is a
nice thing to do to remind users about "the issues", so IMO we should
keep it there.

> Can you tell me more about emacsserver/emacsclient? Does it work like
> gnuserv or are there big differences?

A major difference is that in CVS emacs, emacsserver is now INTERNAL
written in ELisp via make-network-process.  I.e. only emacsclient is
an external program.

AFAIK emacsclient uses a local unix socket, gnuclient uses a mailslot.

-- 
Kim F. Storm <storm@cua.dk> http://www.cua.dk

  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-24 22:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-22 22:24 Some findings and suggestion about Emacs on w32 Lennart Borgman
2004-10-22 23:47 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-23 13:01   ` Lennart Borgman
2004-10-24 22:23     ` Kim F. Storm [this message]
2004-10-24 22:44       ` Stefan
2004-10-24 22:58         ` Guy Gascoigne-Piggford
2004-10-24 23:36           ` Stefan
2004-10-24 23:44             ` Lennart Borgman
2004-10-24 22:57       ` Guy Gascoigne-Piggford
2004-10-25  7:13       ` David Kastrup
2004-10-25  8:13         ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-25 16:50       ` Lennart Borgman
     [not found]         ` <m3sm 81q3ut.fsf@kfs-l.imdomain.dk>
2004-10-26  8:29         ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-26 17:29           ` Lennart Borgman
2004-10-26 17:43             ` Jason Rumney
2004-10-26 17:54               ` Stephan Stahl
2004-10-26 17:58                 ` Lennart Borgman
2004-10-26 21:59                   ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-26 23:03                     ` Lennart Borgman
2004-10-26 17:55               ` Lennart Borgman
2004-10-26 18:50             ` Guy Gascoigne - Piggford
2004-10-26 20:48               ` Lennart Borgman
2004-10-23 12:42 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2004-10-23 13:15   ` Lennart Borgman
2004-10-23 13:40     ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2004-10-23 17:39   ` Jason Rumney
2004-10-24 18:39     ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2004-10-24 20:02       ` Jason Rumney
2004-10-24 20:25         ` Lennart Borgman
2004-10-24 20:43           ` Jason Rumney
2004-10-24 22:01             ` Guy Gascoigne-Piggford
2004-10-23 13:54 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-23 17:44   ` Jason Rumney
2004-10-23 18:58     ` Guy Gascoigne-Piggford
2004-10-24  1:17       ` Lennart Borgman
2004-10-24 12:14       ` Jason Rumney
2004-10-24 12:46         ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-25  4:30           ` Dhruva Krishnamurthy
2004-10-25 20:28             ` Lennart Borgman
2004-10-24 22:06         ` Stefan
2004-10-25  8:42         ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-25  9:00           ` Guy Gascoigne-Piggford
2004-10-25  9:29             ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-25 10:42               ` Dhruva Krishnamurthy
2004-10-25 11:39               ` Stefan
2004-10-25 12:06                 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-25 12:25                   ` Stefan

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