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From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm)
Cc: jasonr@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	Luc Teirlinck <teirllm@dms.auburn.edu>,
	miles@gnu.org
Subject: Re: xassert in dispextern.h
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 10:13:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3bra21kch.fsf@kfs-l.imdomain.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fc339e4a0503011635497f06cd@mail.gmail.com> (Miles Bader's message of "Wed, 2 Mar 2005 09:35:48 +0900")

Miles Bader <snogglethorpe@gmail.com> writes:

>>    The right answer is to change those xasserts (and _only_ those) which
>>    cause a problem or test something silly or are insanely inefficient
>> 
>> How do we find and recognize all of those?
>
> In order to demonstrate that the majority are superfluous, one has to
> actually be able to make exactly the same sort of judgement for each
> xassert -- so I'm saying, if you can make that judgement, then why not
                               ^^^
There's that "YOU" again -- please be precise -- who is that?

If nobody can or will to that (and nobody has volounteered to do it
yet) -- then it will not happen, and the xasserts continue to be a
source of irrelevant crashes for users (who as David points out have
to rely on CVS emacs for their work).

> use it on a case-by-case basis to get the best of both worlds?

> If, on the other hand, it's the case that nobody can make that
> judgement for most xasserts, then nobody is in a position to say
> xassert can safely be disabled either.

Well, the experience from enabling xasserts definitely shows that
they cannot be "safely enabled".

-- 
Kim F. Storm <storm@cua.dk> http://www.cua.dk

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-03-02  9:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-01 16:47 xassert in dispextern.h David Kastrup
2005-03-01 17:08 ` David Kastrup
2005-03-01 18:58   ` Jason Rumney
2005-03-01 19:41     ` David Kastrup
2005-03-01 21:32       ` Kim F. Storm
2005-03-01 21:51         ` David Kastrup
2005-03-01 22:50           ` Miles Bader
2005-03-01 23:14             ` Kim F. Storm
2005-03-02  0:52               ` David Kastrup
2005-03-03  2:29               ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-01 23:17             ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-02  0:35               ` Miles Bader
2005-03-02  1:01                 ` David Kastrup
2005-03-02  1:17                   ` Miles Bader
2005-03-02  1:38                     ` David Kastrup
2005-03-02  9:13                 ` Kim F. Storm [this message]
2005-03-02  9:47                   ` Miles Bader
2005-03-02 11:42                     ` Kim F. Storm
2005-03-02 12:21                     ` Andreas Schwab
2005-03-01 21:16     ` Kim F. Storm
2005-03-01 22:02       ` David Kastrup
2005-03-01 17:13 ` David Kastrup

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