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From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm)
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Cua-mode binding of S-return
Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 23:58:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3br7mg0km.fsf@kfs-l.imdomain.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d5h35o$jit$1@sea.gmane.org> (Peter Heslin's message of "Sat, 7 May 2005 00:46:48 +0000 (UTC)")

Peter Heslin <public@heslin.eclipse.co.uk> writes:

> C-return is used by nxml-mode for nxml-complete, its incredibly useful
> context-sensitive autocompletion function.  nxml-mode is not a part of
> Emacs (yet), so strictly speaking it's not a conflict, but ...
>
> Here is a bit more detail from James Clark (in nxml-mode.texi)
>
>     The traditional GNU Emacs key combination for completion in a
>     buffer is `M-<TAB>'. However, many window systems and window
>     managers use this key combination themselves (typically for
>     switching between windows) and do not pass it to
>     applications. It's hard to find key combinations in GNU Emacs that
>     are both easy to type and not taken by something else.  `C-<RET>'
>     (i.e.  pressing the Enter or Return key, while the Ctrl key is
>     held down) is available.  It won't be available on a traditional
>     terminal (because it is indistinguishable from Return), but it
>     will work with a window system.  Therefore we adopt the following
>     solution by default: use `C-<RET>' when there's a window system
>     and `M-<TAB>' when there's not.  In the following, I will assume
>     that a window system is being used and will therefore refer to
>     `C-<RET>'.

As James explains, this is a general problem, i.e. not limited to nxml-mode.

As such, it should be solved generally, rather than hotch-potch fixes in
individual packages.

Usually, I just use ESC TAB for completion when M-TAB doesn't work, and
I guess other users do the same, as I don't hear many complaints that
M-TAB doesn't work...

I don't know what other good alternative there is for M-TAB, but
although C-return could seem ok, I still think it would be better
used for rectangle marking due to the analogy with C-SPC.

>>  But we have talked about separating the cua-mode rectangle code
>>  from cua, and as such a good binding to toggle rectangle marking
>>  will have to be found anyway.
>
> Have you really had complaints about S-return?

Yes, and I make the mistake myself too often!

-- 
Kim F. Storm <storm@cua.dk> http://www.cua.dk

  reply	other threads:[~2005-05-07 21:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-04-28 21:48 Cua-mode binding of S-return Kim F. Storm
2005-04-28 22:35 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-29 16:53 ` Kevin Rodgers
2005-05-07  0:46 ` Peter Heslin
2005-05-07 21:58   ` Kim F. Storm [this message]
2005-05-08 16:12     ` Richard Stallman
2005-05-16 15:25     ` Kai Großjohann

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