From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: James Cloos Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: why is site-lisp placed before the default load path? Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2016 16:07:19 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83bn1co33l.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1470168729 30597 195.159.176.226 (2 Aug 2016 20:12:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 20:12:09 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.95 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , rswgnu@gmail.com, Alex Dunn , emacs-devel To: Robert Weiner Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 02 22:12:05 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bUg2m-0007RS-TJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2016 22:12:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58781 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bUg2j-0001eL-EU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2016 16:12:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48264) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bUg1a-0001ba-Mq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2016 16:10:51 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bUg1Y-00079U-NZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2016 16:10:49 -0400 Original-Received: from ore.jhcloos.com ([198.147.22.87]:45528) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bUg1S-00077E-T4; Tue, 02 Aug 2016 16:10:43 -0400 Original-Received: by ore.jhcloos.com (Postfix, from userid 10) id 6685D1DFBE; Tue, 2 Aug 2016 20:10:40 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jhcloos.com; s=ore14; t=1470168640; bh=JfubGWWmn1ypRknUXhsJcIQqansUJRnFlKspjRrBWh8=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=EMH1lSGbOUE4/jdr9qUc/1Zmt0sh9yH8S2cjcD8r+nlfMr8AIBGlthbMe9+3OyXDh UseA+EQf/fUrr8G0nvy+hxsbfCsXlujtI/WFSCzZQEDlKEg5KkkeoxejztPyuLS2N4 EAWrREOVty7q/VrUSB3Pr3Ym6v5R2Ok3wqvF1XPA= Original-Received: by carbon.jhcloos.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 67B41107B7BE1; Tue, 2 Aug 2016 20:07:19 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Robert Weiner's message of "Tue, 2 Aug 2016 14:35:59 -0400") Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABAAAAAQAgMAAABinRfyAAAACVBMVEX///8ZGXBQKKnCrDQ3 AAAAJElEQVQImWNgQAAXzwQg4SKASgAlXIEEiwsSIYBEcLaAtMEAADJnB+kKcKioAAAAAElFTkSu QmCC Copyright: Copyright 2016 James Cloos OpenPGP: 0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6; url=https://jhcloos.com/public_key/0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6.asc OpenPGP-Fingerprint: E9E9 F828 61A4 6EA9 0F2B 63E7 997A 9F17 ED7D AEA6 Original-Lines: 16 X-Hashcash: 1:28:160802:rsw@gnu.org::+keSUAbCE9kCmK4w:000002FuBh X-Hashcash: 1:28:160802:rswgnu@gmail.com::GoeIFP4thMxO7BJg:DsN0K X-Hashcash: 1:28:160802:emacs-devel@gnu.org::fVT6h5WBsHi98Vzl:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000C8wQ8 X-Hashcash: 1:28:160802:dunn.alex@gmail.com::z4z4CBtPaAOAiHHk:000000000000000000000000000000000000000005z2iW X-Hashcash: 1:28:160802:eliz@gnu.org::h/H4HI7HRC0AXF2/:0000gFrYg X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 198.147.22.87 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:206368 Archived-At: >>>>> "RW" =3D=3D Robert Weiner writes: RW> =E2=80=8BIf a package unintentionally shadows/overrides a standard/co= re Emacs RW> library, then it is the package that is broken and needs to be fixed.= If RW> instead the behavior is intentional then that is what the current loa= d-path RW> order is designed to allow. The point is that if sub directories are nto automatically included, it i= s easier to manage things. Especially when using one's dist's packaging. I had to make substantial changes to my .emacs when the auto sub dirs was added to fix all of the damage that caused. -JimC --=20 James Cloos OpenPGP: 0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6