From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Towards a cleaner build: other output Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2019 14:53:08 +0200 Message-ID: References: <83a7eo9nsh.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="252015"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 19 14:54:22 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hda6X-0013QP-Ja for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 14:54:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38052 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hda6W-0001cR-Dx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 08:54:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:61000) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hda5Y-0001Yr-3l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 08:53:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hda5W-0006Md-53 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 08:53:20 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:51810) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hda5U-0006KP-5z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 08:53:18 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=stories) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hda5M-0002Na-Ve; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 14:53:11 +0200 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAElBMVEX+/v709PRMSksRDxHg 39+ioaGhMdrQAAACS0lEQVQ4jZ2UzZacIBCFi0T30sEHGLAeIFZmDz3FfkTq/V8lF51eThbhtHqs D+r32qTfLPq/5YkmosV518kt6sILVKurWTXLjaesU72sbbtPLW4ZT7e89gN4Xwour7hp8CF47/8d fPHYVbAVz1LC8p81fLv68kC+7n7xNEdeHhaF6ZjsPbsrOzdlgPg5W5J3yo+0Z2xFKr590mzx8FEA /CnSWQcIclCtVSvAHypNpL1N5A+apS9NtSKE/CYLstvmaD5wwo7W1RrARq3XtGmmSWkV7k2LVjhh smiR10wYBYCljLZ8iCRau6muJY9K4DQddOWT8MqqUy8+E6Wdm6H3SfZEPhw+oL2+AAhrh0Ki7JGG VEqZDowQINYBTKJAApoDJjjEcCIIBxBJAn3UBeWhW05PiTEOFyIAzpBRzcPjh7QYkWRJA5B2lx+H IpvVmCOClPMC1TQ0hrCwOn5acfQG9oRrMwSIbG9a/Q3QzjEeQ/Ni4yeH6p43WPtkLTfYufHJoV+g Wn9sk426qnG0cw+jnUJm5cnrcI/YjVtKvdMEwJo/tjm+Vkv7ttGEyrXk2l9gR4ydN0JzSEP2k6sj V3SbB+CFfgh1zdXCEkYZab+u9AZdwFV5oOwr9MgAwzJIKaGn4XFndQeX9/SJ4k5yNcypX0bEiFu6 wU+M1ty5p8sO1bBwOjCcX5hozGpfdgwKt45uzNRLG1MbkYEQAzcID99HWYYA6kgXNhvnJNcMlbsx /kFaTJcrEUh4iOPurN2TukBvTOqvfyH7AucXiH8BDOir5dFKYScAAAAASUVORK5CYII= In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 18 Jun 2019 10:05:32 -0400") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 80.91.231.51 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:237888 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> Not registering prefix "*" from ielm. Affects: ("*" "**" "***" "*1" >> "*2" "*3") > > These aren't really definitions, so it's harmless if their "prefix" is > not registered. I guess we can also avoid the warning by not using > `defvar` on those things. Right, it's these: (defvar * nil "Most recent value evaluated in IELM.") But ielm really does define (and use) these variables, and you can describe-variable them: ---- * is a variable defined in =E2=80=98ielm.el=E2=80=99. Its value is 3 Local in buffer *ielm*; global value is nil Probably introduced at or before Emacs version 1.1. Documentation: Most recent value evaluated in IELM. ---- Which seems nice... Perhaps there should be a mechanism to tell the autoload scraper to ignore certain variables that are known not to be prefix-ey? It would basically just apply to these ielm variables... >> Not registering prefix "se" from page-ext. Affects: ("search-pages" >> "set-page-delimiter") > > The right fix there is to rename "everything" to use a "page-" prefix rat= her > than merely using "page" somewhere in the name. I'll do the renaming and mark the old names as obsolete. I can't see them used anywhere else in the tree, but perhaps there are out-of-tree uses... --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no