From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: It is time for a feature freeze (it is NOW or never). Date: 03 May 2004 23:00:41 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87eks0654s.fsf@sno.mundell.ukfsn.org> <87n06bp4ng.fsf@sno.mundell.ukfsn.org> <8765cwkejr.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <200404071157.UAA25094@etlken.m17n.org> <200404071312.WAA25268@etlken.m17n.org> <87zn9nqras.fsf@emacswiki.org> <87hdvux5uz.fsf@orebokech.com> <87lll6v514.fsf@orebokech.com> <200404100109.KAA03816@etlken.m17n.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1083625865 30419 80.91.224.253 (3 May 2004 23:11:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 23:11:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Tue May 04 01:10:57 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BKmaP-0006Wi-00 for ; Tue, 04 May 2004 01:10:57 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BKmaO-0000mT-00 for ; Tue, 04 May 2004 01:10:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BKmXJ-0001EI-35 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 03 May 2004 19:07:45 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BKmVK-0000Eu-Dy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 May 2004 19:05:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BKmUm-0008Me-1U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 May 2004 19:05:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.41.46.236] (helo=pfepb.post.tele.dk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BKmRD-0007B0-JC; Mon, 03 May 2004 19:01:27 -0400 Original-Received: from kfs-l.imdomain.dk.cua.dk (0x503e2644.bynxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [80.62.38.68]) by pfepb.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 16A985EE019; Tue, 4 May 2004 01:01:23 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: Stefan Monnier In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 30 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:22661 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:22661 Stefan Monnier writes: > >> In that case, I guess we should aim for a release without the unicode > >> branch. And certainly without the multi-tty branch. (As for the > >> tiling and lexical branches, I am not convinced I want to make those > >> changes.) > > > So when do we declare "feature freeze" ? May 1st ? > > May 1st sounds very good to me, Did we decide on naming the next release 21.5 ? It's simpler just to stick with 21.4 and do some real work, but if we must change it, who will make an effort to change 21.4 -> 21.5 throughout the sources. To speed up things even further, should we make a pretest now? We could announce to the pretesters that it is an early pre-test, but believed to be stable and ask the pretesters to actively start using it so we can get feedback asap. I suggest that we set the USE_LSB_TAG for GNU/Linux and Mac/OS for the first pretest; we can then enable it for more ports in the next pretest. -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk