From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tom Tromey Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: GTK file selector Date: 18 Dec 2005 18:41:45 -0700 Message-ID: References: <871x0apnrl.fsf@marant.org> Reply-To: tromey@redhat.com NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1134958001 8485 80.91.229.2 (19 Dec 2005 02:06:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 02:06:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 19 03:06:39 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EoAOu-0001uF-Dx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2005 03:05:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EoAPi-0004Ls-Tf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 21:06:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EoAOD-0004LM-0R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 21:04:37 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EoAH5-0002dO-Ca for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 20:57:16 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EoA8n-0000oN-8d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 20:48:41 -0500 Original-Received: from [66.187.233.31] (helo=mx1.redhat.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EoABf-0003F6-1j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 20:51:39 -0500 Original-Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jBJ1la4x001353; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 20:47:36 -0500 Original-Received: from opsy.redhat.com (vpn50-70.rdu.redhat.com [172.16.50.70]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id jBJ1lQ121374; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 20:47:30 -0500 Original-Received: by opsy.redhat.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 43AFA2DC185; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 18:41:45 -0700 (MST) Original-To: zedek@gnu-rox.org X-Attribution: Tom In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 26 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mx1.redhat.com id jBJ1la4x001353 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:48023 Archived-At: >>>>> "Xavier" =3D=3D Xavier Maillard writes: > And let's be honest, Emacs is not going to provide any of the nice > features that Eclipse provides these days. Xavier> Can you enumerate few of these nice features=A0? Refactoring. Incremental compilation. Type-sensitive completion. (And other more minor compiler integration features.) For ordinary java projects, no need to know how to build anything. Better CVS UI (IMO anyway). For Java the difference is enough that I've moved to Eclipse for my daily Classpath hacking. For C/C++ ... Emacs' better editing features still keep it in the lead. There's no deep reason Emacs could not do all of these things, aside from the amount of work involved. Another approach to a similar end would be to replace the Eclipse editor with Emacs. Tom