From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: James Cloos Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Feature needed Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 07:43:35 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87wru14onc.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <49520.130.55.132.126.1276531995.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> <87sk4nll00.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1276689188 28432 80.91.229.12 (16 Jun 2010 11:53:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 11:53:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juri Linkov , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. 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Turnbull's message of "Wed, 16 Jun 2010 12:22:23 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABAAAAAQCAYAAAAf8/9hAAAABHNCSVQICAgIfAhkiAAAAI1J REFUOE+lU9ESgCAIg64P1y+ngUdxhl5H8wFbbM0OmUiEhKkCYaZThXCo6KE5sCbA1DDX3genvO4d eBQgEMaM5qy6uWk4SfBYfdu9jvBN9nSVDOKRtwb+I3epboOsOX5pZbJNsBJFvmQQ05YMfieIBnYX FK2N6dOawd97r/e8RjkTLzmMsiVgrAoEugtviCM3v2WzjgAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== Copyright: Copyright 2009 James Cloos OpenPGP: ED7DAEA6; url=http://jhcloos.com/public_key/0xED7DAEA6.asc OpenPGP-Fingerprint: E9E9 F828 61A4 6EA9 0F2B 63E7 997A 9F17 ED7D AEA6 Original-Lines: 23 X-Hashcash: 1:30:100616:stephen@xemacs.org::ZFQ+Nk2TjJWsljjn:000000000000000000000000000000000000000000H+dHu X-Hashcash: 1:30:100616:juri@jurta.org::yfaqqCVOXR5d6Hr5:00OYk/9 X-Hashcash: 1:30:100616:rms@gnu.org::3HZOdPM0x9mrOJdd:00000fWdQA X-Hashcash: 1:30:100616:emacs-devel@gnu.org::/Mu4tBVl8ZhQNSiq:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000PNeYX X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:126000 Archived-At: >>>>> "SJT" =3D=3D Stephen J Turnbull writes: >> Checking every input method might be too ram or i/o intensive for all >> users, but would make a reasonable option. SJT> No, it's not. The vast majority of character inputs are embedded in SJT> self-modifying tries, ie, East Asian phonetic input for Han ideograp= hs SJT> in complex system-wide servers. I don't see how you plan to get thi= s SJT> information out of SCIM/Anthy, for example, or Xlib/XIM for Greek fo= r SJT> that matter. Sorry. I thought that it went w/o saying that I was referring to quail. And, as I found out trying to input =E6=97=A5=E6=9C=AC=E8=AA=9E yesterday= , even then only a subset are doable. Perhaps if the char is in a UCS/TUS script which is supported by one or more 'simple' quail IMs it could optionally iterate through those looking for matches? As for why, Miles and Daniel hit the nail on the head; to know how to input it in the future. -JimC --=20 James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6